Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
As far as Django thing is concerned, I didn't know that, glad you guys are paying attention to manga still. But it makes sense, low level and high level doesn't worth the same way.
I stopped reading here. Jango is literal direct proof that Cross Guild bounties are not accurate to real bounties.

If Cross Guild bounties were accurate, Jango would have a bounty above 9 million, full stop. The fact that he doesn’t shows you that the two systems are completely different and Cross Guild can’t match the funding of the Marines.
 
You are starting to understand why bounties are not a reliable indicator of strength. There are many different factors that massively inflate certain bounties (the Yonko/Garp/Koby) and massively deflate others. Even Luffy’s bounty is deflated to minimize his involvement in Wano. You are rarely getting accurate power levels with bounties when it comes to massive groups like the Yonko.
Then why are you dickriding a bounty that Kuzan might not even get lol
 
I stopped reading here. Jango is literal direct proof that Cross Guild bounties are not accurate to real bounties.

If Cross Guild bounties were accurate, Jango would have a bounty above 9 million, full stop. The fact that he doesn’t shows you that the two systems are completely different and Cross Guild can’t match the funding of the Marines.
Try reading again unless you just wanna read to match your agenda. I told you spending money on Django isn't worth it for CG, they can take him down.

But running resources low for an admiral makes sense.
Buggy having limited budget makes even more sense with that.


For your math to make sense Kizan gonna need to have 27 Billion bounty if you wanna apply that linear logic.
 
Logic suggests Kuzan would have closer to 2 Billion like any top tier Pirate Subordinate would.
Logic suggests the government would be scared shitless of an Admiral with supreme power like Aokiji, joining hands with Blackbeard of all people. And now he does it and takes his preivous mentor the Marine hero as hostage. Specifically because it's one of the color trio with their long resume, experience and completely busted logias. This man with the blink of an eye can freeze a continent lol
 
My argument is Aokiji having equal bounty to Shanks doesn't mean he can low diff Shanks. They are from different crews. 27 years old Shanks having equal bounty to 28 years old Jack doesn't mean Jack low diffs 27 years old Shanks.

A captain and a subordinate get equal bounty for doing the same thing. :Kizgrin:
Oh true but it would mean he low diffs Blackbeard and Blackbeard will make Shanks his bitch soon which would confirm Aokiji > Shanks:sweat:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Then why are you dickriding a bounty that Kuzan might not even get lol
If Kuzan has a 3.8 billion berry bounty while Yonko Saint Shanks has 4 billion, you can kiss the whole Admiral vs Yonko debate goodbye. Admirals are far stronger if this happens.

Don’t mistake it: bounties are not completely accurate to power level, but we can make certain judgments through bounty scaling as we have been doing all thread. Kuzan getting a higher bounty than someone like Mihawk would be really damning for Mihawk and Saint Shanks fans, the best cope you could make is that Kuzan’s knowledge as an Admiral inflated his bounty but if that’s the case, by how much? Lol

I would argue that a 3 billion deflated bounty for the Admirals already makes Mihawk and the Yonko look bad. Lol
 
Logic suggests the government would be scared shitless of an Admiral with supreme power like Aokiji, joining hands with Blackbeard of all people. And now he does it and takes his preivous mentor the Marine hero as hostage. Specifically because it's one of the color trio with their long resume, experience and completely busted logias. This man with the blink of an eye can freeze a continent lol
Right so with all that if Kuzan turns out to have lower bounty than Mihawk it would mean Mihawk low diffs Aokiji right?

Government would be scared shitless of an Admiral with supreme power like Aokiji, joining hands with Blackbeard. Makes a lot more sense to put huge bounty on Kuzan.
Doesn't make much sense to put high bounty on Mihawk.

So if Mihawk's bounty is above Kuzan's it means Mihawk >>> Kuzan as Kuzan is a former admiral.

If Kuzan's bounty is above Mihawk's, it doesn't confirm Kuzan > Mihawk as it makes sense to have a higher bounty on an admiral..are we on same page??
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
For your math to make sense Kizan gonna need to have 27 Billion bounty if you wanna apply that linear logic.


Nah I mean of course it doesn’t have to be linear, the point is that CG bounties are deflated.

Except for Akainu ironically. His bounty is either just right or massively inflated depending on how you interpret things.

@Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @MarineHQ real talk now...

R1: All 5 Admirals vs DR Xebec

R2: Current Wengoku and Warp come to help

R3: Lord Kong comes to help

What diff each round?
Let’s see raws first
 
Nah I mean of course it doesn’t have to be linear, the point is that CG bounties are deflated.

Except for Akainu ironically. His bounty is either just right or massively inflated depending on how you interpret things.
I am saying CG has no reason to give high bounty to weak marines like Django with limited resources. But it makes sense to inflate bounties for admirals.
 
Right so with all that if Kuzan turns out to have lower bounty than Mihawk it would mean Mihawk low diffs Aokiji right?

Government would be scared shitless of an Admiral with supreme power like Aokiji, joining hands with Blackbeard. Makes a lot more sense to put huge bounty on Kuzan.
Doesn't make much sense to put high bounty on Mihawk.

So if Mihawk's bounty is above Kuzan's it means Mihawk >>> Kuzan as Kuzan is a former admiral.

If Kuzan's bounty is above Mihawk's, it doesn't confirm Kuzan > Mihawk as it makes sense to have a higher bounty on an admiral..are we on same page??
That's not how it works, if Mihawk is such an insanely strong fighter like you make him up to be, and by his own right he is a strong one with great destructive power, working with scum like Crocodile and the perceived rival of Shanks Buggy, funded by the underworld and putting bounties on marines, he should be dealt a pretty handsome reward surpassing that of Yonkos, because since he's so strong top 1 bla bla the WG wouldn't think twice giving him 4.5+ bil bounty
 
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