One Piece Chapter 1164: Davy's Blood

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So how much does xebec know about void century and the shenanigans that took place ? He knows about davy, imu, job boy, imu's conflict with joyboy and davy, knows about ancient frozen giants and has plans on getting 2 devil fruits to counter him.

Does he know everything?
 
Oh FFS Everything has already been seen in storytelling. Domi Reversi IS a new thing. Your narrative reason are just an illusion of analysis. That's how YOU perceive that plot, not the actual content. It's not uninteresting nor cheap it's perfectly in synch with the thematics, the manga and the character of imu itself.
And that's how YOU see things. And mind you, I'm not telling you should think otherwise.
And yes, it is indeed uninteresting, cheap, boring and even problematic. The only "illusion of analysis" is - as always - you trying to teach others what they should like ot not like, what they have to find boring and not.

Get a grip on reality for once: not all people like the same thing, and things you find wonderful, others can find awful.

I think DR is all I have said for the reason I have said, and since it's basically the key plot point, I think this chapter has serious problems.

Well I do and I believe that it is narratively very interesting.
Too bad that I had the nerve to come here again to share my excitment just to see the same mumbling wanabee analysts explain just how much Oda is misshandling something they do not understand for the 1000th times, because their new favorite character got wrecked. I mean that's my fault for wanting to share with the effing FANbase
Again: you did well to come here and say you like the chapter.

I have been saying I like Erbaf (a lot), which might be the best post-TS arc for me if all goes well. This FB is also one of the best of OP, for now. No one is having any problems with that.

Likewise, no one is having any problems when someone says that something was underwhelming, for them.

Your reason is "I don't buy that Kaido thinksRocks betrayed him, it's based on nothing". Didn't you read? Kaido and BM lived with the Rocks pirates, meaning that they got betrayed again and again (literally shown in the manga). This was one more of these instances. Not the only one. So yeah, Kaido felt betrayed all the way down during this time. Just like he did himself.
I did, and precisely because of that I think it was poorly written.

Until GV, and with the sole exception of Whang Zi, the betrayal was quite irrelevant, with Shiki throwing a bomb and basically no one having any real problems aside from Kyo having minor injuries. Sengoku said they were killing each other all the time, which unless we are totally disingenuous it hasn't happened.

But more so, both Kaido and WB stood their ground; they acted like a united crew, with BM too, and supported their captain. They didn't betray at all and never were... unless Oda wants to sell me they didn't realise there was something wrong with giant Xebec with demonic eyes and teeth and giant wings, which would be one of the dumbest things ever conceived.

So, both Kaido and BM really have no business talking like it was something profoundly personal for them: they never fucking were seriously betrayed.

"there better be an explanation". omfg WAIT FOR THE STORY to give you the reason. Whine AFTER the experience. You are conditioning yourself not to like something you don't understand the ramification of. That's what I'm killing myself trying to tell you.

All this hatred against the narration at the moment? Pure social conditioning. It's fake. Not based on the reality of the content.
And I am saying I find a critical element lol, I didn't say I have already decided. But alas, I don't like any of the theories I have heard to explain it until now.

And no, as I have said there is no social conditioning at all. I like Erbaf, I like Xebec, I like Harald, all very much; however, I don't like what I have said I don't like.
 
Why is it that the 21-year-old rookie Kaidou, who was caught off guard by Xebec, isn't going toe-to-toe with the Prime Xebec, whose power has been further amplified by Domi Reverse? :Reddog:

The 21-year-old Kaido should have been going toe-to-toe with him here; Oda knew what he was doing when he had Xebec cowardly attack Kaido.
 
Yeah, alot to unfold but theres hints
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So how much does xebec know about void century and the shenanigans that took place ? He knows about davy, imu, job boy, imu's conflict with joyboy and davy, knows about ancient frozen giants and has plans on getting 2 devil fruits to counter him.

Does he know everything?
He left scrolls telling the story for Eris and Blackbeard.
 
Lame chapter. How the fuck Oda wants to believe Imu is stronger if he can't even recognize that Kuma used his ability to send Xebec's family away instead of them being killed? Why Imu himself is not killing everyone? Why was he even attacking marines in first place? What happened to Whitebeard? Why the hell only Garp and Roger that had the least interactions with Rocks so far are the only ones who stayed behind? Why is Dragon so useless? Why Oda had him "saving" babies that didn't needed to be saved? If anything he put them in danger, specially Shanks.
 
Lame chapter. How the fuck Oda wants to believe Imu is stronger if he can't even recognize that Kuma used his ability to send Xebec's family away instead of them being killed? Why Imu himself is not killing everyone? Why was he even attacking marines in first place? What happened to Whitebeard? Why the hell only Garp and Roger that had the least interactions with Rocks so far are the only ones who stayed behind? Why is Dragon so useless? Why Oda had him "saving" babies that didn't needed to be saved? If anything he put them in danger, specially Shanks.
Hater mentality
 
Predictable and a sad joke. In the Flower Room he was flexing like a wannabe against Mu and now in God Valley he’s a crybaby. That he finally didn’t pull a Vegeta makes it even more pathetic
Incredible bad take
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Ego was Xebec's flaw. He knew about DJ. He knew about IMU. He knew what is needed to take down IMU.
But, instead of keeping a low profile, gather all the necessary tools, and hit IMU at the right moment, he had to go taunt the rat king in his own palace, revealing his identity and giving IMU a way to deal with Xebec before he got too dangerous.
Nah, Rocks was there to gather intel for a future use.
 
Lame chapter. How the fuck Oda wants to believe Imu is stronger if he can't even recognize that Kuma used his ability to send Xebec's family away instead of them being killed? Why Imu himself is not killing everyone? Why was he even attacking marines in first place? What happened to Whitebeard? Why the hell only Garp and Roger that had the least interactions with Rocks so far are the only ones who stayed behind? Why is Dragon so useless? Why Oda had him "saving" babies that didn't needed to be saved? If anything he put them in danger, specially Shanks.
Why can’t he recognize Kuma sent them away
- Cause Xebec himself believes he killed them

Why not kill everyone himself
- By now we know Imus personality, he is passive at best and doesn’t care to get his own hands dirty.

Why attack marines?
- Cause their existence means nothing to him anyways and he plans to kill them anyways

Whitebeard?
- Got sent flying through a mountain then xebec ran off

Garp and Roger?
- Because they are the only ones who have something left to fight for. Garp to protect the weak marines and Roger to protect his crew still on the island.

Dragon?
- Dudes literally a 17 year old recruit in a war of gods and top tiers. And this is his sabaody where he changes from the marine to the worlds worst criminal.

Saving babies?
- If Dragon didn’t intervene Shanks would’ve permanently lost his humanity. He risked their lives to save their humanity because it was their mothers dying wish
 
Why can’t he recognize Kuma sent them away
- Cause Xebec himself believes he killed them
Imu is supposedly to have CoO himself

Why not kill everyone himself
- By now we know Imus personality, he is passive at best and doesn’t care to get his own hands dirty.
Why he went that in first place? Is not like Saturn couldn't handle. At least let Saturn fail before possessing him. Same thing about Gunko on current timeline.

Why attack marines?
- Cause their existence means nothing to him anyways and he plans to kill them anyways
Them why having them? Try make any sense. No Tenryuubito is attacking marines. Including Holy Knights and Gorosei.

Whitebeard?
- Got sent flying through a mountain then xebec ran off
That's not what it shows. They are clashing equally. Xebec is attacking from up to down how the hell would he be sent flying upwards?

Dragon?
- Dudes literally a 17 year old recruit in a war of gods and top tiers. And this is his sabaody where he changes from the marine to the worlds worst criminal.

Saving babies?
- If Dragon didn’t intervene Shanks would’ve permanently lost his humanity. He risked their lives to save their humanity because it was their mothers dying wish
That's not necessarily true as we saw the Tenryuubito who helped Fishmen (and end up killed). Dragon never meant to save anyone humanity, or his mom never meant to. They just wanted to be saved as to keep living.
 
So how much does xebec know about void century and the shenanigans that took place ? He knows about davy, imu, job boy, imu's conflict with joyboy and davy, knows about ancient frozen giants and has plans on getting 2 devil fruits to counter him.

Does he know everything?
It is also implied that Eris knew everything from Xebec, which means BB also knows.
 
Imu is supposedly to have CoO himself


Why he went that in first place? Is not like Saturn couldn't handle. At least let Saturn fail before possessing him. Same thing about Gunko on current timeline.


Them why having them? Try make any sense. No Tenryuubito is attacking marines. Including Holy Knights and Gorosei.


That's not what it shows. They are clashing equally. Xebec is attacking from up to down how the hell would he be sent flying upwards?


That's not necessarily true as we saw the Tenryuubito who helped Fishmen (and end up killed). Dragon never meant to save anyone humanity, or his mom never meant to. They just wanted to be saved as to keep living.
He gets his information through his pawns like Xebec the Gorosei and the HKs. We don’t know the limits of his CoO but his information is just what he is told. Why would he put forth effort when others can do it for him?

Saturn couldn’t handle it. Xebec could already beat immortals, just not Imu. And it’s not known what happens if Imu tries to control a beaten and damaged body.

Because the marines keep pirates at bay throughout the world and keep the world stable until the day of the flood can occur. The marines are just used to stop people from becoming threats but they’re easily replaceable if needed.

They are not clashing equally. And even a downward swing has forward momentum? What we see is WB start to panic and next thing we know a massive dust cloud and crack through the mountain occurs. Same dust cloud that happened when Queen was sent through Onigashima.

That is true? Shanks’ mom specifically asks dragon not to let Garling have them. They were physically safe there but shanks’ mom didn’t want them to end up like Garling. And Mjosgard who you’re referring to there specifically stated Otohime gave him back his humanity which means he did not have it prior to that.
 
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