Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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I mean it's both, Oda took advantage of the joke to insert Kaido as it was his saga
No, the mistake in that argument is completely ignoring why Oda used Kaido specifically in the comparison. Oda’s joke is not simply “mom > Kaido” as if it were just some random gag. The point of the joke is to praise mothers as the strongest beings, and to do that he needed the absolute maximum strength reference within the narrative. If he said “mothers are stronger than Usopp” or “stronger than Jinbe,” the joke would lose all impact. It doesn’t make sense to use a mid-tier example when the intention is to emphasize grandeur.


Oda needed the strongest strength benchmark in the verse at that moment, and that reference was Kaido, the “Strongest Creature Alive.” That’s why he says “even stronger than Kaido.”
In other words, to elevate mothers, he intentionally uses Kaido as the top absolute reference. The joke works precisely because Kaido is recognized as the pinnacle of strength. If Kaido weren’t the strongest, the joke would carry no weight.
 
No, the mistake in that argument is completely ignoring why Oda used Kaido specifically in the comparison. Oda’s joke is not simply “mom > Kaido” as if it were just some random gag. The point of the joke is to praise mothers as the strongest beings, and to do that he needed the absolute maximum strength reference within the narrative. If he said “mothers are stronger than Usopp” or “stronger than Jinbe,” the joke would lose all impact. It doesn’t make sense to use a mid-tier example when the intention is to emphasize grandeur.


Oda needed the strongest strength benchmark in the verse at that moment, and that reference was Kaido, the “Strongest Creature Alive.” That’s why he says “even stronger than Kaido.”
In other words, to elevate mothers, he intentionally uses Kaido as the top absolute reference. The joke works precisely because Kaido is recognized as the pinnacle of strength. If Kaido weren’t the strongest, the joke would carry no weight.
No bro
Green Bull's humiliation is because of the red movie
Luffy being nerfed and not using advcoc is because fans don't wear glasses
Aokiji is not a subordinate of a Yonko and he's been treated like an ally for years
 
I wonder if unlike Roger or even Xebec before him if Luffy will successfully get Loki to join his crew by the end of the arc

Assuming Loki is comparable to Luffy strength wise it’d basically be a counter to Blackbeard getting Kuzan to join him
 
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