Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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No evidence Xebec can solo sky-split, only DR Xebec can solo sky-split so no idea what your point is.
I never said Xebec can solo skysplit without DR.
Sorry, I'll add "DR" next time, so that you won't misunderstnad a thing.

1010 Luffy had ACoC too, didn't stop him from getting shitstomped by Kaido 😂 What are these arguments
Wait, is this bozo for real?

You compare Luffy's crude use of ACoC - which he learned a few minutes ago - versus GV Roger and GV Garp who are experienced ACoC users to the point GV Garp face tanks Big Mom's combined Homie attack??? What the fuck am I even reading rn?

"They used ACoC to cause massive destruction" bro you actually can't be serious with these arguments
What else should I describe? Causing this much destruction by farting? :suresure:

I'm not saying GV Roger doesn't have 'no-touching' haki so he can't sky-split, I'm saying he doesn't have no-touching haki when his prime self has it to the highest degree we've seen, meaning GV Roger is significantly weaker than his prime self.


This was several years before the GV incident.
GV Roger and Garp are also in their late thirties.
Stop making excuses.

I never said Xebec can't sky-split without DR. Of course he can — his clash with Harald is pretty much hyped as at least equivalent to a sky-split anyways. He didn't sky-split with anyone on GV because none of these guys were strong enough yet.
Bro, DR doesn't make Xebec go from ~Yonko Level to soloing 2 Yonko Level characters.

You say his clash with Harald was hyped to be equivalent to a sky-split feat but on the other hand, you have folks stating this is just Rookie Xebec. So how does that even make sense? Plus, Big Mom, Roger, Garp and Whitebeard - all of them already had all their signature weapons + Haki skills. So at least, the conclusion is that they were pretty far reaching their prime, especially Roger and Garp.

This is an absolutely horrendous argument — GV Roger and Garp did that by pouring 100% of their haki into their absolute strongest attacks.
Why are you crying like that? I even posted a panel of G5 Luffy pulling a superior version to this move:



This is even about 1026 Luffy, so someone weaker and less experienced in ACoC than Egghead Island Luffy. His strongest attack caused this damage to Kaido:


That's canonically Pre-Nika Luffy's strongest attack and - although this attack sure was no mosquito bite - it didn't remotely push Kaido to his limits while Garp was putting big holes in a ACoC-cancelling-barrier, straight through the entire body.
 
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Why would roger strongest attack look any differnt from what we see from other swordsmen .
Zoro when he beat someone he don't do huge AoE damage if he hitting the opponent .
Even Kaido don't do huge AoE damage with his club with his most powerful attacks.
The fact that it cutting DR rocks to pieces should show how powerful it is since it a direct attack on the person .
 
Why would roger strongest attack look any differnt from what we see from other swordsmen .
Zoro when he beat someone he don't do huge AoE damage if he hitting the opponent .
Even Kaido don't do huge AoE damage with his club with his most powerful attacks.
Most finishers have good AOE/DC

Flame bagua, Bajrung gun , Puncture wille, WB's attack on akainu etc.

Loger's finisher looks ass. There is a reason why people make fun of kidd compared to law as damned punk doesn't look as impressive as PW.
 
Yup, it’s over for them. Shockwille by itself is already prime Hawk Tua level. Puncture Wille is exponentially stronger, it will split the sky and Roger in half.

Ngl, Law will be an absolute beast in EOS.
The fact that his finisher is comparable to 2 Yonko level characters is crazy considering Law has yet to awaken ACoC too (let's be honest, at this point it's a free package delivered to all top tiers).

Meanwhile Midd... :josad:
 
You are either 15 or an idiot
And you are etiher a sore loser or a totally dumb if you think you can ever get away with this.

If Rocks could split the sky alone, then in a fight with Harald, who is his equal, then he should have split the sky more easily
My point is exactly, and has ever been, that now skysplitting (in clashes) is almost useless, surpassed, nothing much, a mere 1026 Luffy feat, do you get it? It's for weaker top tiers and Oda doesn't even care to show it anymore. It's only use going forward is in some hype moments if Oda wants to throw the thing there, but can just as likely not happening as it didn't countless times in this FB.

So much that one with Joy Boy's level of haki skysplitted alone rather that in several clashes he had, because in Oda's eyes it's useless to draw the outdated and not relevant skysplit in clashes anymore.

Your cope was that Rocks haki was comparable to 1026 Luffy; now that Rocks' haki is comparable on the opposite to Joy Boy, that's dead, finally.
 
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It's literally this simple.

@Sentinel how can you even debate the above, that's what I'm saying and disagreeing is straight up cope.
Bro, what is this list supposed to say lol? You realise Oldbeard was solid Yonko Level without his illness and he caused a skysplit feat while on meds? Do you seriously believe this Oldbeard was stronger than GV Roger or Garp? I mean, fine by me - I can push the Wuzan agenda even further since Wuzan managed to keep up with an Old Garp who, unlike Sickbeard, didn't suffer from any illnesses or was lazying around for the last few decades.
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Give me freedom
Give me fire
Feed me more DFs
Or I retire

Kaido: "Haki transcends all!!!"
Also Kaido: "Stole the fruit from Big Mom's hand and his finisher is literally an island sized fire dragon." lol

However, Kaido was pretty good in this flashback. For the lack of proper characterization and flashback in Wano, Oda kinda made it even with this flashback.
 
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