Role Madness Frieren: Beyond Journey's End

[Yoho]

Morning! What do you think about everyone?

I get along swimmingly with everyone here I have no beefs or problems with anyone's playstyle

Oh oh you meant in the game

I think one of Alexis or Rej is scum yes i accept that that interaction could be town v town but good chance it wasn't

I think Flowers idea of there wasnt a faction killed because RA was killed is a flawed mindset to have because thats assuming every mafia team is gonna adhere to that mindset when thats simply not true

Poyser claimed vig and claimed to have tried to kill tepig which seems to have sparked a wagon on the little piggy I can't quite remember what piggy response to that was but since he still has a wagon it must not of been satisfying

Bittercat randomly protected Flower im not 100% sure why there was nothing from D1 that indicated Flower might be a target

🤔

 

[Ratchet]

I get along swimmingly with everyone here I have no beefs or problems with anyone's playstyle

Oh oh you meant in the game

I think one of Alexis or Rej is scum yes i accept that that interaction could be town v town but good chance it wasn't

I think Flowers idea of there wasnt a faction killed because RA was killed is a flawed mindset to have because thats assuming every mafia team is gonna adhere to that mindset when thats simply not true

Poyser claimed vig and claimed to have tried to kill tepig which seems to have sparked a wagon on the little piggy I can't quite remember what piggy response to that was but since he still has a wagon it must not of been satisfying

Bittercat randomly protected Flower im not 100% sure why there was nothing from D1 that indicated Flower might be a target

🤔

Thanks for this. Going off of this, Bittercat's usage is very plausible for him, so I'm inclined to trust the claim. Poyser (BTAM?) probably doesn't fake claim vig, so he can be town. I'm on board with flipping Tepig then. Don't really see why you think one of Alexis or Rej must be scum.

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

Do you mean everyone's play?

What was your opinion back in D1 when Rohan said there's no vig in the game ?

You shouldn't claim but yeah, it makes sense.

I don't really like this post, it's shady for many players in the manner the case against Melkor was constructed. Also it feels like pocketing a few people.

When you have reads please share and ping me

Meta of what exactly?


this is the reason of Ratchet's post, he saw Poyser complaining and answered to that. It doesn't require catching up or any other info from hidden chats like you accused.

don't you think everyone had enough of your behaviour until now in multiple games @Alexis2282AE ? Ratchet is also an angel for patience and idk how big is that patience tbh, because my own runs out and I am really patient.

These are kinda bad posts

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

Thanks for this. Going off of this, Bittercat's usage is very plausible for him, so I'm inclined to trust the claim. Poyser (BTAM?) probably doesn't fake claim vig, so he can be town. I'm on board with flipping Tepig then. Don't really see why you think one of Alexis or Rej must be scum.

Tepig claimed martyr bg if that’s effects your opinion on anything

 

[Ratchet]

Tepig claimed martyr bg if that’s effects your opinion on anything

How does that work?

 

[Ratchet]

Is his version of BG always a martyr?

Ah it's the standard bodyguard. Hmm, I dunno how I feel about that claim, feels like a really weird one for scum to make and not a role I see Fuji giving to scum either.

 

[Ratchet]

Tepig: 5
Rej: 1
Rohan: 1
Polar Bear: 1

Bitter: Tepig > Polar Bear > Tepig
BigTimeAnimeMan: Tepig > Tepig >
Alexis: Rej> Rej > Rej > Tepig > Rej > Tepig
Rohan: Tepig> Rej
Rej: Yoho> Rohan
Michelle: Yoho > Rohan > Polar Bear
Flower: Tepig > BigTimeAnimeMan > Tepig>
The Orca: Tepig
Indigo: Tepig
York: Tepig

With 14 players its 8 votes for majority.​

How much time do we have left?

 

[Ratchet]

Problem is I don't really have another viable lynch, can't even really suggest Alexis in good faith because I think he's town and we already mislynched once.

 

[Ratchet]

Michelle and Alexis are obv Towns. You’re welcome.

At this point in the thread that you were at, I don't think I agree.

 

[Ratchet]

You are propably right on Alexis. I actually did not like Michelle immediately asking Alexis to justify his vote on Rej on first page. I think she played with Alexis so should know he is not going to answer it.

But I can believe you are good Michelle reader.

The problem with this Melkor is that if you never hold him to any standard just because of who he is you never get better play from him. Not a fan actually of you trying to enable him to play any which way he wants, I don't have any issue with what Michelle did.

 

[Ratchet]

Man that really makes me feel good that I pushed back on almost all of those, especially prof

(FTR I wasn't actually culted, at least not to my knowledge)

 

[Ratchet]

anyway I will hit the bed very soon

so what I can take from this first pages so far is that ya'll wanna bet on Alexis this game? I guess then I will have to let go of my policing vote...
ripperino

I am still waiting on reads from Yoho, really disliked his early posts. It sounded like staple mafia cliches. And that's all I could get from the early posts. Most people are NAI, Michelle, Flower and Bittersweet I vibe with as soft town leans. Let's see where this will go.

vote lynch Yoho

I actually liked Rej up to here but I'm not a fan of this unvote, simply because I don't know Rej as someone who will acquiesce to the majority sentiment, certainly not easily.

 

[Ratchet]

This post isn't sitting right with me

+ points for Orca.

 

[Ratchet]

Alright, did a quick read

Flower seems townie, i think, although having to say "consider this a placeholder vote" was kinda weird, why justify? might as well just place the vote and see. Just something that caught my mind.

Rej... is kinda weird, shooting in one direction first, once nobody followed, they started pointing at all kinds of directions trying to follow the flow. Also, trying to cozy up to the newcomer and all those posts hyping themselves up as a great player on D1 was kinda weird too. Don't know Rej's tells anyways, don't remember anything about how people played here.

I'm shit at reading people D1 anyway, so i'm down to follow a good enough wagon if it forms up.

Indigo lean town for this post.

 

[Ratchet]

I don't ask about suspects here. Any thought game related is useful.
For eg, I asked Rej to be my thread mason and he said yes. Do you have any opinion about my request and his answer?
What's my intention? What's his intention? Why bitter posted about my scum games? What he wants to accomplish? Do you know anything about that?
Why was Orca ignoring my vote? Did he read or not the thread?
When town, stuff like these makes the difference between a potato player usually mislynched and someone really playing the game.
When mafia, you blend in alot more easily instead just spamming and trying to go unnoticed.

Michelle can be town.

 

[Ratchet]

Poyser going after me like this is usually scum in my experience, but if I go after him now people will just claim it’s OMGUS again like in the Witcher game, so he’s free to expose himself by burning himself on trying to wagon me. If he’s Town he‘ll probably change his mind later anyway.

Gonna come back to this because he doesn't seem to have changed his mind.

 

[Ratchet]

1) why are you lying?
2) if you think I’m scum, why aren’t you pushing me?
3) you don’t have to answer question 2 because you’ve already answered it. You’re scared of what you’ll look like if you’re pushing me so… if you’re town then why is how you’re perceived more important than pushing scum?

To play devil's advocate a little, and I haven't really made my mind up on flower independent of her claim yet, but if she hates being pushed and feels like she can't engage with the game over it, I think it can make sense for her to avoid the confrontation entirely. For point 3 for example, I think town flower is far more concerned with how she gets perceived when it comes to suspicion on her, than she is pushing for and finding scum.

 

[Ratchet]

And goodnight.

I am not a great Yoho teaser but this answer feels a bit forced.

Why? Not a fan of you so far Melkor.

 

[Michelle]

I get along swimmingly with everyone here I have no beefs or problems with anyone's playstyle

Oh oh you meant in the game

I think one of Alexis or Rej is scum yes i accept that that interaction could be town v town but good chance it wasn't

I think Flowers idea of there wasnt a faction killed because RA was killed is a flawed mindset to have because thats assuming every mafia team is gonna adhere to that mindset when thats simply not true

Poyser claimed vig and claimed to have tried to kill tepig which seems to have sparked a wagon on the little piggy I can't quite remember what piggy response to that was but since he still has a wagon it must not of been satisfying

Bittercat randomly protected Flower im not 100% sure why there was nothing from D1 that indicated Flower might be a target

🤔

Of course I meant as alignment in game.
The protect on Flower makes sense since she hinted at being doc

Thanks for this. Going off of this, Bittercat's usage is very plausible for him, so I'm inclined to trust the claim. Poyser (BTAM?) probably doesn't fake claim vig, so he can be town. I'm on board with flipping Tepig then. Don't really see why you think one of Alexis or Rej must be scum.

At least one claim is fake especially the vig one with what Rohan claimed D1, if we consider Rohan should be town by play then Poyser is lying to obtain a mislynch on tepig. Although Tepig can be an indy, he's probably not mafia, idk why Ekko as mafia would back up from pushing Rej and come with a salty town read at the end

These are kinda bad posts

Of course they are, I start to suspect you

Tepig claimed martyr bg if that’s effects your opinion on anything

Can you quote the post?


@Ratchet did you really started to read without checking the flips?

 

[Ratchet]

See, if you’d have called me scum and started telling people to go for me I might have believed it because you’ve done that plenty as town. Once again, you are being soft

Who cares? I‘m Town here.

Yeah so I feel like Flower's play around this is most easily explained by her being town knowing she has a claim in her pocket that's clearing. It explains why she's eager not to lash back at you Poyser because I do believe she hates that confrontational part of the game, I think when she has the opportunity to do so she's much more likely to sit back and watch her pushers dash themselves against a wall because she has a claim that will usually trump whatever they can bring against her. And while it could be scum with a cop fake, I think the fact I can reason it out as her being town is generally a good sign for her, I'm fine being charitable in this case - I think she's town.

For you I think your claim does a lot of heavy lifting, I could see you getting stuck on this as town because what you're identifying is valid in isolation, but it also reminds me of a recent scum game you had where you were pushing Flower and I expected you to come to the same conclusions I did with her when you didn't, which has me a little wary. I think I still lean on the mech and say you're town, but I need to see a wider consideration from you (and it's possible I see that in the remaining 72 pages I have to read). I'm mostly saying this because if you're town, I'd like you to try and find Flower because I think she's town.