Powers & Abilities What makes Sanji a Conqueror?

[Toby D. Dog]

Since Gaban has CoC, we all know what this means. Gaban seems to have said something to Sanji after he asked him if he had CoC.

I think the real question here is if Sanji does indeed have the potential to unlock it, what in his character is the key factor that gives him the dispotition of a king? It can't be his dream of finding the All-Blue, since that doesn't really require him to reign supreme over other cooks.

However, having the dispotition of a king doesn't necesarily mean that you desire to reign supreme. Sometimes, all it takes is having an unshakable belief in something. See where I'm going with this?


IMO, What makes Sanji a Conqueror is

Spoiler

his absolute refusal to fight or even strike women

Ironically enough, the thing that has made Sanji look like a clown all along, is what gets him into the club

 

[Sir Yasheen]

http://imgur.com/a/fHedaCi

“I’d rather live my dream and die”

 

[Zenos7]

people are born with CoC, but sanjis refusal to strike women was taught to him by zeff

 

[NAMELESS]

He is a womanizer. He has a dream similar to finding the One Piece. His rival is a conqueror. He strives to be the best at his trade ( cooking). He is a great fighter and he barely trains.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

people are born with CoC, but sanjis refusal to strike women was taught to him by zeff

That refusal is simply the conduit he uses to project his will onto the world. It could've well been anything else if his upbringing had been different. Luffy didn't come out the pussy knowing he'd be the king of the pirates. Same goes for Zoro. These goals are simply what sets them on the path to unlock and master their innate abilities.

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http://imgur.com/a/fHedaCi

“I’d rather live my dream and die”

It connect back to women. It's all about women.

 

[Hamlette]

There are only four people in One piece history (as far as we know) that have ever occupied the title of "Wings of the pirate king" and 3 of them have conquerors, makes sense that the fourth would also have it. It's really that simple in my opinion.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

There are only four people in One piece history (as far as we know) that have ever occupied the title of "Wings of the pirate king" and 3 of them have conquerors, makes sense that the fourth would also have it. It's really that simple in my opinion.

It is that simple. But you still have to justify it in-world. This is that justification.

 

[Julius]

I think that he has great willpower and strong ideals, that is enough, he also aims high, he had a natural leader position in Baratie and that kept being a thing when he joined the Strawhats.

 

[Hamlette]

It is that simple. But you still have to justify it in-world. This is that justification.

Problem is that there has never been a consistent definition of what a Conqueror is. We have top tiers who don't possess it, so it can't be power, we have character's with no grand dreams or ambitions but they possess it etc. I just don't see a solid in world justification for COC, so I just look at it from the outside and conclude that Oda gives it to whoever he wants.

 

[soupongo]

What Gaban actually told Sanji:

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Problem is that there has never been a consistent definition of what a Conqueror is. We have top tiers who don't possess it, so it can't be power, we have character's with no grand dreams or ambitions but they possess it etc. I just don't see a solid in world justification for COC, so I just look at it from the outside and conclude that Oda gives it to whoever he wants.

The Yonko are vying to be pirate king, Doffy wanted to take over the world, Zoro wants to be the best swordsman. With old legends you don't really have to do any legwork to justify it, that comes with being an old top-tier. However, you do have to justify it when it comes to a main character.

 

[Hamlette]

The Yonko are vying to be pirate king, Doffy wanted to take over the world, Zoro wants to be the best swordsman. With old legends you don't really have to do any legwork to justify it, that comes with being an old top-tier. However, you do have to justify it when it comes to a main character.

Sanji being a future legend, top tier, left hand of Nika and someone seeking a place that no one believes exists nor has been found seem to be good enough justifications.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Sanji being a future legend, top tier, left hand of Nika and someone seeking a place that no one believes exists nor has been found seem to be good enough justifications.

It's not. You need to develop your main characters and try to justify their progress. Storytelling 101.

 

[Hamlette]

It's not. You need to develop your main characters and try to justify their progress. Storytelling 101.

Why is not not enough of a justification?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

He’s prince of Germa and the most fit to rule.

Sanji is the only redeeming part of the Vinsmoke family. The other brothers are all sociopaths. Judge is a fascist. And Reiju was complicit in Judge’s plans.

He’s also the strongest member of the Vinsmokes at the moment.

The only reason he doesn’t have CoC is that he hasn’t realized it by accepting his position as prince. Imo he eventually will in the final war.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Why is not not enough of a justification?

Huh? I just told you. For the simple fact that when you tell a story, you need to justify the progress your characters make. That's the reason we had a time-skip in the first place.

 

[Hamlette]

Huh? I just told you. For the simple fact that when you tell a story, you need to justify the progress your characters make. That's the reason we had a time-skip in the first place.

No, you haven't explained how it's not justified. How is Zoro unlocking COC justified but Sanji not?.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The Yonko are vying to be pirate king, Doffy wanted to take over the world, Zoro wants to be the best swordsman. With old legends you don't really have to do any legwork to justify it, that comes with being an old top-tier. However, you do have to justify it when it comes to a main character.

What's Yamato justification? Katakuri?

 

[Terra Arseid7]

There are only four people in One piece history (as far as we know) that have ever occupied the title of "Wings of the pirate king" and 3 of them have conquerors, makes sense that the fourth would also have it. It's really that simple in my opinion.

3 of them use cutting weapons, 3 of them are not cyborgs, and so on I could continue with your bullshit logic.

 

[Hamlette]

3 of them use cutting weapons, 3 of them are not cyborgs, and so on I could continue with your bullshit logic.

Continue.