Role Madness Elden Ring

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I've seen a recent town ratchet game and indy

You haven't made some clear observations that you normally do as "town" and certainly not as quick as you have

In fact, I think this whole thread should have two observations already and those pushing back on them are highly suspect to me

Flower pushed back on one and I haven't seen you take a side on either
I feel like I've given a few reads - I don't nind not town reading me as I'm both playing without having read everything and also not at full gear yet. I think observing that I'm not at full tilt is a fine observation, I just would like to stress that that doesn't necessarily mean I must be a different alignment.

I'm not sure what observations these are so of ignorance is my sin then let me have sinned.
 

Worst

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There where a couple moments that made me 👀 Ratchet

He seems to willing to vote and unvote

I gotta gather more information to know for sure tho
the fact that he unvoted you because of my observation means he's about 99% town scum Ratchet would take a more leading approach getting the wagons moving he wouldn't just listen to someone so imho that was a very good interactioin
 
My concern is more trying to consensus build around my slot - I don't know why you scum read me and I've given answers to everything you've asked. Us disagreeing on some reads surely isn't the reason because when has that ever been a good marker for you to read me from?

If I go further, I could say you might be trying to weigh up whether it's worth going for a Day 1 Ratchet lynch which you wouldn't push without having enough of a backing. The problem I have with that Flower is I don't think there is any way you, as town, believe it's worth taking the risk and lynching me Day 1 without really compelling evidence, or flat inactivity from me, and neither are relevant here. So I'm going to push back when I see you trying to get a scum read on my slot from Yoho.

On the note of Yoho him not actually giving a position on me... I don't know what to make of it. My gut says as scum he would pick a leaning either way but take it with a hefty pinch of salt.
I’ve literally tried getting him to notice that your push on him is very shaky and pointed him at your posts to gauge his reaction. Yoho historically knows and can tell when a push on him isn’t genuine, like he caught Poyser in the Witcher when he went out. Him scum reading me doesn’t actually bother me as he historically reads me poorly and he‘s basically never read me right ever (though here his read just seems awful without much conviction behind it). I wanted him to read your posts to have his take because if he’s Town he can oftenly tell when people are scum. And it also helps me with reading him.

And yes, I would D1 you. I don’t like the risk, but people always let you get away with everything because you are just that convincing and once I‘m dead I can’t get them to vote you anymore even when I‘m right. So I prefer pushing there or at least making my stance clear.
 
I feel like I've given a few reads - I don't nind not town reading me as I'm both playing without having read everything and also not at full gear yet. I think observing that I'm not at full tilt is a fine observation, I just would like to stress that that doesn't necessarily mean I must be a different alignment.

I'm not sure what observations these are so of ignorance is my sin then let me have sinned.
I do have to say that you are sliding back down some and I did say last night that your read was loose. Flower on the other hand is only solidifying herself as scum

Flower
baudib1
KWEH

Ratchet

Alwaysmind
Hayumi

bittersweet

Naomi
Charlie


Yoho

Peroroncino
Jaguark101
Indigo
Random Asshole
MonochromeYoru
Yo Tan Wa
Worst
ConquistadoR

Marimo_420

Yoshi

RippedCal

Lord Melkor
The Orca

Jan
 
I think Ratchet feels overly defensive so far. Though I don’t know if he‘d be scum with Yoho. Doesn’t really fit tbh. Feel like Yoho would give more of a take on him if they were team mates. Don’t think both are Town though as of this moment.
 
Welcome

What mafia lesson can you take from this song...

Since baudib1 is too frozen in the scum chat I'll answer this

1. Nothing is better than 90s country

2. The view is always better from behind

3. God Blessed Texas, girls from the south are sweeter than sweet tea

4. Life's a dance, you learn as you go, unanswered prayers are not always the best bc we all got an achy breaky heart. We gotta meet in the middle on the Chattahoochee bc I like it I love it, now check yes or no

5. We all got a Bobbie Ann Mason from our past as well

6. Mafia is a game, don't take it too seriously, enjoy the memories made bc its all you got

7. Interact with the dumb stuff bc its a red flag if you don't
 

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
What do you think about his approach towards you?
Ratchet tends to approach my slot with a grain of salt imo because he knows better than most that even when im townie my play can seem scummy a first glance, tho I will say the way he approached my slot while it did feel of the way he was so willing to vote and unvote felt more townie than your approach

1st you call me a nothingburger which is true but you've played with me more than enough times to know that im more often than not gonna just bullshit on the first day and shouldn't be anything to base a read on

2nd reason is you always make up some meta reason for why Im scum for example whenever you said I tend to say good night as scum, i happened to be scum that day and I wasnt interested in digging through pass games just to prove i say it as town as well, and here you voted me just cause I said im just vibing

Thats my current observations
 
If there's something you want me to answer Polar, then say so. I'm not actively avoiding anything because I want to make it to the final three again and this time, make the right choice. So if me helping resolve whatever concerns you have about my alignment now will do that, then I'm willing to do so.
 
I think Yoho‘s probably the scum out of the 2. Ratchet tends to be more defensive as Town to my knowledge. Maybe Jan has a point that he feels too sloppy to be scum 🤔.
You can always push him more. Get a decent enough wagon on him that he can be pressured to claim. That seems to be what Worst indicated earlier. He responds when he's got his feet to the fire, not before.
 
Ratchet tends to approach my slot with a grain of salt imo because he knows better than most that even when im townie my play can seem scummy a first glance, tho I will say the way he approached my slot while it did feel of the way he was so willing to vote and unvote felt more townie than your approach

1st you call me a nothingburger which is true but you've played with me more than enough times to know that im more often than not gonna just bullshit on the first day and shouldn't be anything to base a read on

2nd reason is you always make up some meta reason for why Im scum for example whenever you said I tend to say good night as scum, i happened to be scum that day and I wasnt interested in digging through pass games just to prove i say it as town as well, and here you voted me just cause I said im just vibing

Thats my current observations
Just that I‘ve gone through literally all of your scum games with the Good Night thing. If you say something once as Town, but 10 times as scum it’s still a reliable tell lmao.
 
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