Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

I mean the series would end if every character acted smartly.

Sengoku could've put down Ace himself the moment he thought Luffy or etc were getting closer. He instead decided to confront them. He could've grabbed Ace himself and just jumped away from the platform and retreated further back, chose not to.

I don't hold these as accounts of stupidity or things to bash characters over or take into account when talking about how well a character is written. Cause PIS is a thing at end of the day for every single character. It's just weird when people are selective about it.
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Borsalino, Kuzan, Sakazuki had a fodder luffy in front of them, instead of insta-blitzing, they chose to throw attacks at him. Then the yellow man, like a complete moron, instead of simply pinning him down or shooting lasers through him, chooses to kick him away. The same yellow man who later shoots a pinpoint accurate laser to destroy the key, didn't have the brains to headshot luffy. The same yellowman who moronically thought it was smarter to aim for Whitebeard's torso, rather than his head.
The three idiots also sat on their thrones, like complete morons while Whitebeard pirates destroyed the walls and invaded.

All of these decisions prolonged the war, resulting in the deaths of lord knows how many marines and further destruction of Marineford.

Will be entertaining to see you refute these, while agreeing in the past that these are "PIS".

So we care about complexities when it comes to the admirals, but throw them away when it's a character we don't fuck with, got it.
Bro un-banned just to spew diarrhea all over this thread and when I debunk him, he is going to self-ban again LOL

Anyway I agree that pirates had massive amounts of plot armor at Marineford, Akainu was doing nonsensical shit like hitting heart attack Whitebeard with a puny magma fist instead of just hitting him with like, Daifunka

Kizaru shoots Ace’s key instead of just shooting Luffy clean through the head

This is because Oda can’t have pirates face serious Admirals because they will die, so he has the Admirals massively restrain themselves so that the manga doesn’t end.

To even compare this to Lolden’s retarded ass twerking through the streets of Wano is absurd. Even a 3 year old would have never been baited into doing something so stupid by people who were obviously lying (Orochi and Kaido).

Oda restrained the Admirals himself so he didn’t have to end the manga early, this isn’t the same as Lolden being the dumbest person in the history of OP
 
Again... People like Doffy aren't praised for their dumb decisions. Oden is.
Think of how many characters worship and look up to him. Even Whitebeard called him a brother.
Oden simply never did anything to deserve that level of praise. He was an idiot until the day he died.
-> Oden actively helped the Whitebeard pirates get stronger. But sure we can lie about that too, and pretend he didn't heavily benefit Newgate. When the sole reason they started taking over the Roger pirates as headlines in the newspaper was cause of Oden.
-> He helped the Roger Pirates achieve their goal, and started setting in place things for the future that would lead to the opening of wano borders.
-> He took in the Scabbards, who served as guardians for Wano even in his absence.
-> At end of the day he sacrificed his life for the people of Wano, when he easily could've just joined up with Kaido. He didn't owe Wano jackshit. Blud could've taken his family n left and joined the WBPs. So yea they would naturally hold him in high regard for his sacrifice. He's not the only one who's held in high regard, the other Daimyous are as well for their sacrifice.

Just like Ryuuma is dick-sucked hundreds of years later by people who don't even know what he actually did.

Dismissing what a character has done for others is corny bruh. All of them have reasons to like him. Y'all exaggerate this "Worship" shit tho. The man was made to look like a 3rd-stringer in his own flashback by Roger and Newgate lol.
 
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