Future Events When Sanji unlocks Conqueror's Haki, would that affect people's opinions on Sanji's character?
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We've got too much PTSD from too many alts and CCP bots here. A certain user (not in thread though) has been calling many people alts here for ages and it's maybe rubbed off onto us lol.
I've suspected a lot of newer accounts of being alts and I seem to have been right sometimes at least but probably not so much lately, cough.
He seems to think you would get perma banned due to thinking you're an alt account. I can't think of another reason why. I'm just guessing here lol.
I'm pretty sure it's just rage-bait tbh. I don't think anyone would seriously use the fact he ran away from okamas for 2 years as an argument against him getting CoC.
Lmao what? I was talking about Yonji having his RS on, not Sanji. This was way before Sanji received his own RS.
What you're describing isn't plot convenience, since there was no obligation to make Sanji get stronger and defeat Queen, there were plenty of powerful characters who could have done it. Same with the HKs. Oda didn't decide to make Sanji a future CoC user because he has to defeat powerful opponents, it's the other way around. He has to to defeat powerful opponents because Oda decided to make him a CoC user. The plot doesn't require Sanji to be that relevant.
Lmao what? I was talking about Yonji having his RS on, not Sanji. This was way before Sanji received his own RS.
What you're describing isn't plot convenience, since there was no obligation to make Sanji get stronger and defeat Queen, there were plenty of powerful characters who could have done it. Same with the HKs. Oda didn't decide to make Sanji a future CoC user because he has to defeat powerful opponents, it's the other way around. He has to to defeat powerful opponents because Oda decided to make him a CoC user. The plot doesn't require Sanji to be that relevant.
Is he trying to manifest me being an alt just because I don’t agree with him 
My account is gonna be 2 year old in August and I already feel like a dinosaur.
My account is gonna be 2 year old in August and I already feel like a dinosaur.
Alt accusations are normal here too unfortunately, I've had a few accusation of it myself iirc lol. People didn't believe it was me that easily when I returned on this new account either. I've been guilty of calling others alts too.
When everybody is an alt, nobody is an alt! Or something like that lmao.
What I mean by that is that, when Sanji unlocks CoC Haki, would folks see Sanji in a different light/view or does CoC has nothing to do with Sanji's character as they are separate matters? Would be interesting to hear y'all thoughts.
"Chinjao was a rival of both Garp and Roger."
Sanji is a rival of Zoro. Also Moria rivaled Kaido at one point, does he have COC?
He is a Hasshoken master.
Sanji is a black leg style master
"He was the former leader of the Happo Navy."
So is Sai, a member of the grand fleet, who is vastly weaker than Sanji and holds an inferior position to him.
"He is considered a pirate of legend."
So is Gaban, Sanji's parallel. Unless you think a prime left wing of Nika won't be a legend?
"His goal was to defeat the strongest Marine to ever exist."
No, that was petty vengeance after his head got flattened. Unless you believe Chinjao only unlocked COC after the age of 48. Also, we already established that goals don't determine if someone will have COC. Ace wanted to make Whitebeard king, Sanji wants to make Luffy King, that's an active goal of Sanji's.
"Katakuri demonstrated dominance and “perfection of strength”."
Only that isn't the case because he is weaker than many other characters with and without COC. He was a big fish in a small pond.
"He was considered unrivaled and undefeated before his fight with Luffy."
Yes, then he lost to a Luffy that was getting one shotted by Yonkos. How do you think a fight between prime Sanji and a 48 year old Katakuri would go?.
Again, you have nothing.
Sanji is a rival of Zoro. Also Moria rivaled Kaido at one point, does he have COC?
He is a Hasshoken master.
Sanji is a black leg style master
"He was the former leader of the Happo Navy."
So is Sai, a member of the grand fleet, who is vastly weaker than Sanji and holds an inferior position to him.
"He is considered a pirate of legend."
So is Gaban, Sanji's parallel. Unless you think a prime left wing of Nika won't be a legend?
"His goal was to defeat the strongest Marine to ever exist."
No, that was petty vengeance after his head got flattened. Unless you believe Chinjao only unlocked COC after the age of 48. Also, we already established that goals don't determine if someone will have COC. Ace wanted to make Whitebeard king, Sanji wants to make Luffy King, that's an active goal of Sanji's.
"Katakuri demonstrated dominance and “perfection of strength”."
Only that isn't the case because he is weaker than many other characters with and without COC. He was a big fish in a small pond.
"He was considered unrivaled and undefeated before his fight with Luffy."
Yes, then he lost to a Luffy that was getting one shotted by Yonkos. How do you think a fight between prime Sanji and a 48 year old Katakuri would go?.
Again, you have nothing.
Only thing that would change is him being stronger. Anyone really being honest knows sanji has to get insanely strong by eos. Even if he doesn't get coc oda will give him some abilities that place him in top tier. He's the #3 of the pk and while oda uses him as a punching bag sometimes it's because he's supposed to be strong.
I don’t like Sanji because his behavior towards women is really creepy and even borderline predatory, and whether or not he has CoC has nothing to do with that. He’s had some cool badass moments, but he’s still creepy and off putting to me.
edit: Also he will always be second to Zoro and nothing will ever change that, no mattter what type of haki he does or doesnt have. So no change in opinion power-level wise
edit: Also he will always be second to Zoro and nothing will ever change that, no mattter what type of haki he does or doesnt have. So no change in opinion power-level wise
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He'll get stronger and will be able to face Imu's goons.
But his character overall won't change. Remember beginning of post-TS? When Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were calmly discussing that the three of them were the only ones able to hurt logias due to having trained haki. And it was just unemotional assessment of their battle prowess as a crew, like I can do haki, I hit that goon, you will do this and that to carry out our plan.
Character-wise Sanji still will be Sanji
But his character overall won't change. Remember beginning of post-TS? When Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were calmly discussing that the three of them were the only ones able to hurt logias due to having trained haki. And it was just unemotional assessment of their battle prowess as a crew, like I can do haki, I hit that goon, you will do this and that to carry out our plan.
Character-wise Sanji still will be Sanji
I'd chalk it up to flanderization. He was pretty chill for most of pre ts until Thriller Bark where Oda started doing jokes about him peeping on women with the invisibility fruit, but even that's typically treated as a gag. He never actually harassed women at any point in the story, iirc.
It is still a bad and uncomfortable joke though, and I wish Oda would stop.
It is still a bad and uncomfortable joke though, and I wish Oda would stop.