Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1169 Spoilers Discussion

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I ain't gon lie, Harald better return to his senses at the very end and let these guys kill him, otherwise it might be over for the Xebec/Harald > PK agenda.

Isn't Loki basically like 16 rn lool. Unlikely Shanks is a top-tier yet and in fairness Gaban should be pretty much prime. That's one confirmed top-tier, maybe two in Loki.

We already know GV Roger and Garp who beat DR Xebec weren't prime, and look at the difference between Xebec and DR Xebec. If Harald, Xebec's equal, really was originally PK level, he should absolutely stomp these guys.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Eh..
Doubt it. I really do consider them mostly Charlos like.
You can’t be serious
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So you mean it was like, 19 Charlos level fodders and Imu alone who was a God Tier being? In what way does that make sense?

Also we know they explicitly battled and defeated the strongest pirate ever, how would 19 fodders and one Imu even accomplish that? The silhouette Oda drew implies that the original Twenty (or at least some of them) participated equally in the fight against Joy Boy, so we’re supposed to get excited about Joy Boy fighting Twenty Charlos’s and winning?
 
You can’t be serious
:ihaha:


So you mean it was like, 19 Charlos level fodders and Imu alone who was a God Tier being? In what way does that make sense?

Also we know they explicitly battled and defeated the strongest pirate ever, how would 19 fodders and one Imu even accomplish that? The silhouette Oda drew implies that the original Twenty (or at least some of them) participated equally in the fight against Joy Boy, so we’re supposed to get excited about Joy Boy fighting Twenty Charlos’s and winning?
I said mostly
I think there will be a couple of strong ones from the relevant families (acting as the first gorosei) but they were mostly fodder.
Imu used their armies and resources. I heavily doubt the ancestor of Doffy was some Kaido tier warrior living on Dressrossa and wasting his time torturing Tontatas.
There was some back stabbings, Imu stole their tech, Domi Reversied some and then beat Joyboy maybe with the help of the amped up warriors among the twenty (the first and weakest generation of the gorosei)
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I said mostly
I think there will be a couple of strong ones from the relevant families (acting as the first gorosei) but they were mostly fodder. Imu used thier armies and resources. I heavily doubt the ancestor of Doffy was some Kaido tier warrior living on Dressrossa and wasting his time torturing Tontatas.
There was some back stabbings, Imu stole their tech, Domi Reversied some and then beat Joyboy maybe with the help of the amped up warriors among the twenty (the first and weakest generation of the gorosei)
What about the ancestors of the Gorosei families? Those guys are going to be strong as fuck and you know it.

I’m pretty positive Oda didn’t draw Joy Boy battling the silhouettes of the Twenty Kings just to reveal that Imu alone beat Joy Boy, and then having Imu twerk at Joy Boy’s Haki 800 years later
 
What about the ancestors of the Gorosei families? Those guys are going to be strong as fuck and you know it.

I’m pretty positive Oda didn’t draw Joy Boy battling the silhouettes of the Twenty Kings just to reveal that Imu alone beat Joy Boy, and then having Imu twerk at Joy Boy’s Haki 800 years later
Is Shanks>>>> GB then?

Because you can have PTSD from someone almost killing you but ultimately losing. Its called having a legit threat in a peer, thinking they have been dead for centuries and randomly feeling their haki.
 
What about the ancestors of the Gorosei families? Those guys are going to be strong as fuck and you know it.

I’m pretty positive Oda didn’t draw Joy Boy battling the silhouettes of the Twenty Kings just to reveal that Imu alone beat Joy Boy, and then having Imu twerk at Joy Boy’s Haki 800 years later
I think there was an original gorosei
There will be 5-6 strong ones among them but i think they are weaker than the current generation to signify Luffy and his crew has surpassed JB.
The WG wasn't close to being as strong then as it is now imo.
 
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