Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1169 Spoilers Discussion

What is Ragnir ?


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On the topic of Ragnir, how do you guys feel the devil fruit vs. homie argument plays out?

Just from a reader standpoint, what would be more fitting? An unintelligent sentient hammer or an intelligent sentient hammer?

Do you want to see Loki have full conversations with his hammer (intelligent) or do you want him to have just enough capability to give it commands because it has a capacity to feel loyalty (unintelligent)?

Personally, I would prefer that Ragnir is just intelligent enough to obey commands.
 
Loki and Shanks are secretly working together, that's why Loki actually knows where he is (let's assume he wasn't lying). He's only pretending to hate him for x reason.
Oda will not have his morally perfect wonder boy be responsible for framing an innocent
Loki committing rampage after sailing is irrelevant btw, the reason for Loki punishment is because it is believed he killed Harald out of malice, or Shanks knows that's false.
That's a dangerously based pfp you've got there. :datas:
 
Lowkey at this point I almost think there’s no way at all for Luffy to beat a soon to be Domi Reversi Loki

The same goes for zoro and Sanji vs dorry and brogy


They obviously won’t kill them but it’s hard to imagine Blackbeard and especially Shiryu being stronger
Domi Loki might be dealt with kinda like Oars, where everyone attacks him.

Also feel like we could see Kid return with a power up in order to help. Possibly other allies too.
 
YEAH WHOEVER THOUGHT THAT IS ON COPIUL

lol we saw even 2 top tiers needing to risk themselves in order to take out Rocks, even then it wasnt even them that were able to fully finish him off.
Yeah I got no clue how they’re going to deal with them besides luffy having a hax to automatically turn them back but that’s definitely too simple. Battle wise they might be fucked

Maybe they get help from an outside source but they’d also likely have to be an emperor level force
  1. Revolutionaries: feels too soon tbh but maybe
  2. Red haired: don’t see them coming back to elbaf any time soon
  3. Blackbeard Pirates: busy with the ancient weapons and why would they help
  4. Cross guild: wtf they gonna do
  5. Returning Kaido: while I’d love to see Kaido back and awakened it probably won’t happen
  6. Returning big mom: would honestly love it especially with all her ties to elbaf plus the whole Lola situation but don’t have my hopes up
Loki's gonna join the crew wdym?

Are you saying he's too strong to join? :beckmoji:
If he’s Domi Reversi he’s definitely way too damn strong
 
Wild that Loki might have 3 attributed powers lol

- Devil Fruit he ate, whatever it actually is.
- Ragnir's own, separate power guarding the above fruit presumably
- Loki's eyes, if they suggest he's the Hell Serpent or something without the need of DF powers.

Its highly likely the Hell Serpent and Earth God are a pair, since their description in the 1st world seems to imply they destroyed the world together and I think Imu is the Sea God given his contract names, so between those 3 sources, I assume Loki is technically both the Hell Serpent and Earth God.
Wouldn’t it make more sense for the Forest God fruit to be on Elbaf tho?
 

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This is the most hype a devil fruit has ever gotten
Jarul attacked Harald to stop him saying if Harald eats that Akuma no Mi, the world will end

Could it be Jormungandr
IMO it’s Fenrir, the wolf chained up by a red haired war god (who only had 1 arm after this) , who is prophesied to kill Odin.
 
On the topic of Ragnir, how do you guys feel the devil fruit vs. homie argument plays out?

Just from a reader standpoint, what would be more fitting? An unintelligent sentient hammer or an intelligent sentient hammer?

Do you want to see Loki have full conversations with his hammer (intelligent) or do you want him to have just enough capability to give it commands because it has a capacity to feel loyalty (unintelligent)?

Personally, I would prefer that Ragnir is just intelligent enough to obey commands.
Perhaps Ragnir is a homie, but a special type we are yet to see.

We haven’t seen Soru Soru no mi awakening yet.

What if an awakened user of the soul fruit can enhance the innate soul of an object, giving it some sentience. As opposed to putting the soul of a human into the object.

Hence Ragnir, while “alive”, doesn’t have humanoid features like the other homies. It doesn’t have a human soul.
 
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