Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[L57]

wait so how much stronger do you think mihawk is than shanks
isnt it an extreme diff at most?

high diff

 

[AER15]

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Talked with Sentinel too.
Either Lee is right and the event didn´t happen like many of us believed or Shanks indeed awakened a god like power after he lost his arm two years later after the Harald event.

Because it doesn´t make anysense at this point for Shanks to be stronger than this Loki after he was far weaker in the event with Harald castle.

I mean yes Shanks improved a lot but Loki has also potential.
He barely had his fruit and defeated Harald, 8 years later, Loki should be clearly stronger than the vision Loki fought Harald.

Loki 14 years ago was>>>>>>>>Shanks at least.
So what did Shanks got which made him so broken to be able to defeat a monster, who pose also insane adv CoC, one legendary devilfruit power and a legendary devilfruit weapon??

Mythical Zoan sword Gryphon.

Ratatsokr runs up the World Tree to deliver messages between the Dragon Niddhog and the Eagles living above it.

Ratasokr = Ragnir.
Niddhog = Loki.
Eagles = Shanks (Grypon).

This is more or less confirmation to me that Shanks is visiting Heaven/Astral World right now in Elbaph, and that we should see him soon.

Mythical Zoan Piece, my word.

Loki could only beat God's Knight Harald after receiving a Mythical Zoan Weapon.

Shanks could only beat Loki after receiving a Mythical Zoan Weapon.

Also, Haki grows from extreme use in battle. Shanks probably grew a good amount between 14-6 years ago. It's likely Loki didn't fight many strong top tiers seriously during this period, because no one wanted the smoke. Maybe a Linlin clash and Kaido clash.

Ain't no way Fraud's Knights wanted anything to do with fighting Loki after Loki beat Harald, the only one with CoC. Trying to kidnap babies instead. Lame.

 

[Levi]

It's implied that the squirrel looked into Loki's heart, saw it was good, and just let him use it.

So Loki got TWO fraudulent wins in a single chapter @DarkestKnightofSpoilers

Did Loki hype last 30 chpts I pray not🫩

 

[HA001]

wait so how much stronger do you think mihawk is than shanks
isnt it an extreme diff at most?

If it was extreme diff hed still fight him

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

wait so how much stronger do you think mihawk is than shanks
isnt it an extreme diff at most?

It shouldn’t be extreme diff. Should be high diff narratively since being Shanks level isn’t enough to push Mihawk to his limits anymore.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Crux has been single-handedly tanking the Temple’s reputation in this forum in 2025. Like 90% of the terrible takes by the Scholars are by this great mind. At this point I’m reconsidering whether it’s Gaban that has sent the sword swallowers into exile or the shame Crux is bringing to the temple as a whole

Nik is even worse and they don't do anything about him
He'll be fine

 

[park_min young]

Loki was strong enough to go through Harald’c CoC and weaken Imu’s grasp on him. It’s basically the same thing that Roger plus Garp did to Xebec. This is nuts.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

@Doggo @MonochromeYoru @ZenZu
treat for you, save it to post it after when the chafter drops
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/harald-needs-to-do-a-solo-sky-split.76373/

Ban these frauds from the temple @HA001

I don't wanna bully him anymore lol

He was ready to delete his account a few days ago

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

high diff

oh you think of hasbeen as in a lower cap ? @HA001

well its not a direct meaning but it is implied
yes losing an arm lowers potential.

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It shouldn’t be extreme diff. Should be high diff narratively since being Shanks level isn’t enough to push Mihawk to his limits anymore.

I disagree tbh

 

[Blackflamesanji]

i doubt in the chapter it will say "Harald only comes to his sense because Loki inflicts a great deal of damage on him, without this damage he received, he would not have been able to gain control."
worstgen has to stop with this headcanon bs, just say what the chapter said, no more interpretation bullshit

 

[TheD.]

Xebec’s equal Harald after getting massive strength boost and immortality:
”Let me get a shot at Ragnir, I might defeat it now”

Couple enjoyers in here “Bumsop will wield Ragnir”

The squirrel would zap ussop if he even glanced its way

 

[TheAncientGorosei]

so funny how kaido becomes the universal punching bag when someone strong shows up
speak on roger bro.

Kaido is the Renji of Op

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

i doubt in the chapter it will say "Harald only comes to his sense because Loki inflicts a great deal of damage on him, without this damage he received, he would not have been able to gain control."
worstgen has to stop with this headcanon bs, just say what the chapter said, no more interpretation bullshit

Scotch also said he was only making a guess.

 

[mmd]

The fact that Loki fought Harald on equal terms is a great feat in itself.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Nik is even worse and they don't do anything about him
He'll be fine

Difference is Nik is obvious with his trolling and doesn’t outright insult everyone before every message. Crux has the confidence of insulting everyone and acting like he’s superior to proceed to type out the most god awful take known to mind.

Like read that Sakazuki Akainu message. He starts it off by saying “Are you retarded?”. Nik is at least polite most of the time

 

[HA001]

oh you think of hasbeen as in a lower cap ? @HA001

well its not a direct meaning but it is implied
yes losing an arm lowers potential.

They are equals in this flashback.

Shanks is also left handed and fights like roger with 2 handed sword swings.

He got capped.

 

[warsame zaylai]

https://x.com/worstgenhq/status/2004200930204623178?s=61

"
Harald only comes to his sense because Loki inflicts a great deal of damage on him; without this damage he received, he would not have been able to gain control.

Loki didn't even want to kill his father, but had to after Harald forced him to do..."

yh Loki >>>>>>prime gaban +shanks

this what roger and garp did against rocks

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Guys shitting on gaban because they literally couldnt touch harald
have a strong feeling you replace gaban with any other legend and the result is almost the same

 

[TheD.]

The fact that Loki fought Harald on equal terms is a great feat in itself.

This and he was 16 years old,loki literally has gotten way stronger after this lol I hope anyone saying “loki downscale” is being satire