What fruit does Loki have?


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Really ?
I think Base Harald who went toe to toe with Xebec chickening out from fighting the hammer should've done the trick. Also Base L'oki equally clashing with that Harald was the cherry on top.
How powerful is the fucking Ratatoskr Fruit? 😭

There’s no way that a hammer that ate a mythical squirrel fruit is so strong that a guy like Harald would struggle to beat it. Oda just don’t care
 

Gol D. Roger

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Wouldn’t that make that generation extremely weak? Someone like zoro would be able have been described as having “legendary duels” with shanks or mihawk
Anything can be called legendary in OP. Even the bumass Katakuri's fake track record is considered legendary within their circles. It depends on how strong they were when the supposed duel happened. For all we know, the fight with Harald compelled Shanks to grow stronger and focus more than his CoC. Personally, I don't have high expectations for Shanks vs. Mihawk.
 
Lucci is fighting G5 and post Wano Zoro two years after EL. Low and Mid have higher bounties than Loki. The MCs sure get better boosts, but the others get their fair share of ridiculous power-ups too. Shanks, in particular, is given way more importance than most MCs from the SH crew.
People forget how fast coby grow .
Kaku awaken his DF in 2 years which is the fastest that we know about .
Sabo get a boost from eating a DF.
Bonney get a huge as power boost that she could copy G5 for short while and she 12 lmao .
All because of the story call for it which will be the same for shanks .
 
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Has anyone had a more historic falloff than Orochimaru? Everything kinda just fell apart for him after Tenchi Bridge

It was revealed he got negged by teenage Itachi with a casual Sharingan genjutsu
Sasuke beat his ass
Itachi negged him once again
Kabuto became like 10x stronger than him in like 2 months
It was revealed he was totally inept at learning Snake Sage Mode even though the dude is a human snake
And lastly, he became some background cheerleader in the final war despite having access to all his Jutsu again and even gaining Hashirama cells
 

Gol D. Roger

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On a side note, I am not gonna pretend Shanks is some God tier character if he did end up matching or beating Loki on his own. It'll just mean we massively overestimated how strong Rocks and Harald were as far as I am concerned. I still have no clue why people automatically assume Rocks and Harald are stronger than PK Roger.


People forget how fast coby grow .
Kaku awaken his DF in 2 years which is the fastest that we know about .
Sabo get a boost from eating a DF.
Bonney get a huge as power boost that she could copy G5 for short while and she 12 lmao .
All because of the story call for it which will be the same for shanks .
Yup, anything can happen if the story compels it.
 
On a side note, I am not gonna pretend Shanks is some God tier character if he did end up matching or beating Loki on his own. It'll just mean we massively overestimated how strong Rocks and Harald were as far as I am concerned. I still have no clue why people automatically assume Rocks and Harald are stronger than PK Roger.




Yup, anything can happen if the story compels it.
The one problem is Jiaga. Xebec still was strong enough to easily kill an Admiral
 
On a side note, I am not gonna pretend Shanks is some God tier character if he did end up matching or beating Loki on his own. It'll just mean we massively overestimated how strong Rocks and Harald were as far as I am concerned. I still have no clue why people automatically assume Rocks and Harald are stronger than PK Roger.




Yup, anything can happen if the story compels it.
Basically 2 reasons

1) When Jiaga got beat, Admiral fans wanted to save face by overhyping Rocks.

2) Sengoku's line which clearly in hindsight is referencing DR Rocks
 
Ragnir is seemingly as strong as base Loki already and he had like a high-extreme diff fight with it

Loki then eats the mythical DF and gets Ragnir as well and he’s told that beating immortals is basically just beating them with enough AdvCoC that their regeneration disappears.

mythical form Loki, with Ragnir and AdvCoC beat Evil Harald down to the point that Base Loki can finally kill him with an AdvCoC smash

current day Loki talks about not understanding what his Advcoc was even though he used it to kill Harald. The implication is that Loki had just awakened AdvCoC in this Harald fight. And he immediately killed the mofo
Is it crazy to say that df basically just powers up haki and the crazier the df the stronger the haki ? I still think it was crazy how oda depicted gear 5th awakening, haki it was going crazy. Df are basically training wheels for haki.
 
@soupongo @MarineHQ

Has anyone had a more historic falloff than Orochimaru? Everything kinda just fell apart for him after Tenchi Bridge

It was revealed he got negged by teenage Itachi with a casual Sharingan genjutsu
Sasuke beat his ass
Itachi negged him once again
Kabuto became like 10x stronger than him in like 2 months
It was revealed he was totally inept at learning Snake Sage Mode even though the dude is a human snake
And lastly, he became some background cheerleader in the final war despite having access to all his Jutsu again and even gaining Hashirama cells
Yeah, like I said that one time, I imagine

1. He was doing dogshit in popularity polls
2. Kishi really wanted to do more social commentary stuff in part 2, and Orochimaru wasn't really that in his mind
3. General power inflation/ a shift from knowing lots of jutsus being relevant, as opposed to generic powerup shit like sage mode
 
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