What fruit does Loki have?


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Massive agenda wars going on here lmao.

I for one, can't imagine Oda shitting on his golden boy, even if he was only like 20-25 (?) here.

I will wait for Redon's spoilers or the chapter to come out at this point.
Why would it be bad for Shanks?
Literally Prime Roger and Garp used their COC to the point of death to stop Rocks
If Shanks is on his feet with energy and vigor at the end of the fight, there is no problem and I can even say that Oda kept the logic of the story, Shanks is at the level of Yamato at best
 
Yes. People are delusional if they think an arc as important as Elbaf will be carried by Gunko as main villain.
Are you trying to be wrong about everything on purpose lol? Gunko is now possessed by Imu, like how Imu appeared on GV, we pretty much had a 20 chapter flashback where Imu is the main antagonist, and Gunko is shown as his aid going back 56 years. Why would Shamrock appear on Elbaf,leave to do something else, and comeback again? That would be completely useless, and Gunko is one of the stronger HK, anyway.
 
Massive agenda wars going on here lmao.

I for one, can't imagine Oda shitting on his golden boy, even if he was only like 20-25 (?) here.

I will wait for Redon's spoilers or the chapter to come out at this point.
I mean it all works out for them in the end

No one cares about Shanks before the current day because the current day is his peak. If anything I’ve seen a lot of Shanks fans trying to downplay young Shanks (after claiming he would still stomp most characters as a teenager cause he learned Divine Departure at a young age) because it makes it easier to downplay Mihawk

That’s how the agenda game works tbh

Twist anything into a W
 
He literally still has them,do
People even read one peice anymore?
Genuinely I’m so confused on what your comment means?Have you even read Elbaph arc?


Actually, the image below fooled me. Here Oda drew Loki's horn without the band, but it seems that in the next two chapters, that band is with Loki. So I don't know exactly if this page has a problem and Oda made a mistake, or if Loki's left horn is completely intact.
 
What's your take on Loki btw? ^^
I'm aware of just how strong he's implied to be but I honestly cannot shake the nakama vibe I'm getting from him in which case I can only get excited about what's to come for both Zoro and Sanji. If Loki joins for example what would be your expectation for both Zoro and Sanji this arc?
Bringing it to this thread to discuss some spoiler related stuff
Anyway, I really don't think Loki will join here. It's not just because of what we saw in this chapter (although this is a big part of it), but I just think Loki's going to get a plot line where he gets his reputation cleared and everyone in Elbaf starts to love and cherish him, and he decides to become the new king (maybe alongside Hajrudin).
Not to mention, as this chapter's shown, he's probably WAY too strong to join and he's also way too big. Same reason why Jinbe couldn't join in FMI, he was above arguably everyone in the crew so Oda held off until the M3 were above him. With Loki, I don't think that'll happen until it's too late, since Loki is one of the strongest characters in the verse going off these spoilers. If and when the crew surpasses him, it'll be after their penultimate fights against Mihawk, Teach, and whoever Sanji fights last.
 
Bringing it to this thread to discuss some spoiler related stuff
Anyway, I really don't think Loki will join here. It's not just because of what we saw in this chapter (although this is a big part of it), but I just think Loki's going to get a plot line where he gets his reputation cleared and everyone in Elbaf starts to love and cherish him, and he decides to become the new king (maybe alongside Hajrudin).
Not to mention, as this chapter's shown, he's probably WAY too strong to join and he's also way too big. Same reason why Jinbe couldn't join in FMI, he was above arguably everyone in the crew so Oda held off until the M3 were above him. With Loki, I don't think that'll happen until it's too late, since Loki is one of the strongest characters in the verse going off these spoilers. If and when the crew surpasses him, it'll be after their penultimate fights against Mihawk, Teach, and whoever Sanji fights last.
Holy Knight Harald is one of the strongest characters in the series and in his own tier alongside DR Xebec. These two characters are above the likes of even Roger or Newgate, so the notion that Loki who is still growing is outright stronger than him is not a very sensible take imo. Hence why Oda ultimately had Harald drop his guard in order for Loki to kill him. Moreover, we know for a fact that Shanks defeated Loki 6 years ago. Are we going to now elevate Shanks to Imu level coz he beat Loki?
So even whilst acknowledging that Loki is very strong. a degree of common sense has to come into play at some point.

I'm not conviced Loki is strong as some on here are trying to make him out to be coz it just doesn't make a lot of sense logically or narratively. If this was Teach (candidate for EoS anatgonist) we are talking about then fair enuff but Loki is going to be Nika's ally or a nakama at best. Went on a tangent there but strength wise, I will be shocked if he outperforms Luffy this arc and if he's below Luffy then he is not out of reach for Zoro and Sanji imo.


I do think there's a possibity that where he stands in relation to Zoro and Sanji could be ambigious Post-Elbaf but wouldn't really be the first time something like that has happened. We had a simialr situation when Robin first joined for instance plus we could potentially get a Jinbe type situation where Loki goes on his own litte adventure (for instance to revive Gallela) and then joins the SHs at a later point.

With regards to size, that problem could be very easily solved with a special ability of either Loki's DF or Ragnir's or the SHs building a much bigger ship.

Already mentioned this somewhere prior but with the revelation of what happened in Aurust castle 14 years ago, Hadrujin's justification for keeping Loki tied up has gone up in smoke so all that is left is for Loki to acknowledge Luffy as a man worthy to follow. He already has the offer and only thing that stopped Luffy from insisting was Hadrujin's justification.
Don't think Loki is going to remain on Elbaf or rule alongside Hadrujin. At this point, Hadrujin being anything even remotely close to King whislt Loki is on Elbaf is a pipe dream. Mans best bet is advisor lol
 
Loki,shirahoshi,Bonney,and even Koby
Invest in pink hair stock
They always seem to have some of the most high potential characters
-Big mom had potential
-Bonney has insane future warping abilities
-Loki is gonna be a eos Godly level
-Shirahoshi is a ancient weapon
 
Shanks best to best case is on par with roger or bit stronger. Base Harald holds parity with Base xebec who holds parity with roger and garp.

It took roger and garp both to barely beat DR amped xebec and HK amped harald should be comparable to him. And loki beats HK amped harald.

Loki easily should be a level above roger/WB/Garp and shanks by this logic. Lets see how it goes.
I almost forget that Shanks from 6 years ago already had his crew and he is crippled.
 
Shanks best to best case is on par with roger or bit stronger. Base Harald holds parity with Base xebec who holds parity with roger and garp.

It took roger and garp both to barely beat DR amped xebec and HK amped harald should be comparable to him. And loki beats HK amped harald.

Loki easily should be a level above roger/WB/Garp and shanks by this logic. Lets see how it goes.
Would Loki beat him if Harald didn't regain control though? We need scans for more context
 
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