Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

Sanji fans really need to cling to the magazine statement because at this stage if his highest parallel is Prime Gaban and Prime Gaban is so far below the real top tiers even with ACoC and FS its just sad.

Sanji’s actual parallel is Mars, and even Luffy couldn’t really beat him back in Egghead

 

[Dragon777]

Yknow, no hate to Zoro fans, but you'd really think they'd learn their lesson with this Conq Haki stuff after Sanji's old gen parallel got it lol

And I was skeptical tbh. I didn't think Sanji would have.
However, after Gaban got It and was shown to be a real top tier, It became clear.

Anyway, there are levels. Sanji's will have pretty high CoC, but not Shanks' level of CoC.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Copium overdose
The only thing we have is that Prime Gaban and 24 year old Shanks didnt have the power/ACoC to deal meaningful damage to HK Harald while an exhausted Loki was able to. If Shanks is shown using ACoC then your non-factor comment doesnt holdup.

I literally did not say anything that means otherwise. You guys are salty that I am not onboard with your mindless wank.

 

[BestGen]

Sanji fans really need to cling to the magazine statement because at this stage if his highest parallel is Prime Gaban and Prime Gaban is so far below the real top tiers even with ACoC and FS its just sad.

Normal Harald > Hawky
Keep up the cope zkkucks

 

[Boiroy]

Upcoming coc users from current gen

Sanji
Law
Usopp
Nami
Sabo
Bonney
Helmeppo
Coby

 

[Sentinel]

I hope so cause the difference in levels is just so much
ACoC Top Tiers > ACoC Low Level > No ACoC

Honestly, Law's Haki mastery is quite good at this point. He learned how Kaido and Big Mom use their Haki as a passive barrier to block or defend attacks, even some hax ones, and Law used the same ability to cancel hax.

If Law gets ACoC, I'm pretty sure his ACoC wouldn't be weaker than Big Mom or Kaido. I mean, Law has better Haki feats than Kidd and the latter is a conqueror lol.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Upcoming coc users from current gen

Nami
Bonney
Helmeppo

 

[Boiroy]

Mihawk haters will soon cry

Not gonna last long

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Nami is shiki's daughter
Helmeppo the second strongest future marine
Bonney prodigy child

 

[Blazing Lion]

Because Oda picks and chooses when he wants characters to awaken their CoC

Why did Zoro unlock CoC against Kaido and not in the millions of tense life or death situations he was in prior to Wano?

Why did Luffy unlock CoC against a random bull in Sabaody?

Law could have it and he hasn’t awakened it yet. You can’t use the argument “well they’ve been around so why haven’t they used it” because it falls apart the second you think of all the scenarios other characters could’ve unlocked theirs in

Ace unlocked his at 10 years old when he thought Luffy was about to die. Yamato randomly used it while she was hungry

Why did it take the rest of them so long to unlock it? Cause it’s down to Oda at the end of the day

Whenever he wants Law to unlock it is when he’ll get it (assuming he has it at all)

Dont compare to Zoro and Luffy awakening since they are the MCs, their awakening has a lot more narrative reason.

Compare Laws situation to other side characters like Kid, Yamato, Ace etc.
Oda showed Captain Trio as rivals and had Kid and Law be shown together and fight together. So compare Laws situation to Kids. Would you rather have a side character awaken an important power up in the limited screen time they have (Law had plenty of it) or would you have it awakened off screen?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Helmeppo the second strongest future marine

 

[Royal Kick]

Upcoming coc users from current gen

Sanji
Law (maybe)
Usopp
Nami
Sabo
Bonney
Helmeppo
Coby

FIFY.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Honestly, Law's Haki mastery is quite good at this point. He learned how Kaido and Big Mom use their Haki as a passive barrier to block or defend attacks, even some hax ones, and Law used the same ability to cancel hax.

If Law gets ACoC, I'm pretty sure his ACoC wouldn't be weaker than Big Mom or Kaido. I mean, Law has better Haki feats than Kidd and the latter is a conqueror lol.

DEI conqueror doesn’t mean much tho ngl

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I said this in my very first post that you've quoted, sir. Harald was already resisting Imu's control before he lost control, all he needed was enough push to regain his senses again, so let's not act like Loki already practically defeated him before Harald allowed him to land the killing blow just because he managed to damage him.

It’s clear Loki had the upper hand in their fight despite being wounded so I’m not sure what your point even is lol. This is a character who Saint Shanks and Gaban were like flies to, who Loki overpowered and ultimately defeated.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Honestly, Law's Haki mastery is quite good at this point. He learned how Kaido and Big Mom use their Haki as a passive barrier to block or defend attacks, even some hax ones, and Law used the same ability to cancel hax.

If Law gets ACoC, I'm pretty sure his ACoC wouldn't be weaker than Big Mom or Kaido. I mean, Law has better Haki feats than Kidd and the latter is a conqueror lol.

I mean they are both pretty featless when it comes to haki, at least Law had the knowledge and his haki was strong enough to cancel the DF effect on his whole crew.

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Sanji’s actual parallel is Mars, and even Luffy couldn’t really beat him back in Egghead

Lol okay

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I literally did not say anything that means otherwise. You guys are salty that I am not onboard with your mindless wank.

Calling 25 yo Shanks a non factor lmao

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Calling 25 yo Shanks a non factor lmao

Both Gabum and Lhanks were non factors and insects compared to Woki

 

[Blazing Lion]

Normal Harald > Hawky
Keep up the cope zkkucks

Keep crying bitch your favs best parallel, Prime Gaban, is weak even with ACoC and FS.

 

[BestGen]

Mihawk haters will soon cry

Not gonna last long

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Nami is shiki's daughter
Helmeppo the second strongest future marine
Bonney prodigy child

Micucks will keep crying the more their expectations raise
Most of them don't believe what they type though

 

[Blazing Lion]

Both Gabum and Lhanks were non factors and insects compared to Woki

Yeah but @Gol D. Roger was trying to paint it as Prime Gabum was not while Shanks was a non factor

 

[Juanpiz]

Upcoming coc users from current gen

Sanji
Law
Usopp
Nami
Sabo
Bonney
Helmeppo
Coby

Helmeppo one would be Even bigger asspull than gear 5

 

[Welkin]

Dont compare to Zoro and Luffy awakening since they are the MCs, their awakening has a lot more narrative reason.

Compare Laws situation to other side characters like Kid, Yamato, Ace etc.
Oda showed Captain Trio as rivals and had Kid and Law be shown together and fight together. So compare Laws situation to Kids. Would you rather have a side character awaken an important power up in the limited screen time they have (Law had plenty of it) or would you have it awakened off screen?

Law is clearly far more important than most side characters. Shit, with how important he’s been post timeskip I’d say he easily clears most Strawhats in terms of relevance

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was saving Law’s CoC awakening for something big

Keep in mind that I’m not saying Law will get CoC. Unlike certain characters I’m actually completely on the fence for Law (when it comes to predicting it) specifically because the Ope Ope fruit is so powerful and hax on top of it’s potential connection to Imu’s immortality that Oda may completely forego conqueror’s haki for Law and just keep buffing him through his broken fruit

But him not having it currently doesn’t mean he’ll never get it