Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

What will be Loki next power ?


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You can just tell Oda is preparing to wank tf out of Loki. Might even top the
2012 Punk Hazzard Law run. One of the greatest Runs by a Character in a One Piece Arc to this day. This combined with his backstory allowed him to surpass Zoro in a Popularity Poll.






I knew the OP fandom was cooked the moment Chicken Wings retook their lead over Law in the popularity polls
 
How? His offensive arsenal is kinda ass, I think he runs out of Izanagis before he can get through all of Sasori’s puppets
Not really. Even Sakura was able to notice and start dodging Sasori’s attack patterns in a bit that even Chiyo admitted that Sakura didn’t need much help anymore. Someone much more faster and skilled like Danzo should do it, even without Izanagi in play. Maybe one. And Sasori has no idea about it so he’s gonna be surprised and won’t be able to use it.

Wind Release is also more than enough. It was enough to pressure Sasuke to block his Susano’o meaning it can harm Susano’o which is far more durable than anything Sasori has.


Sasori’s fighting style also gets countered with AoE and his chakra strings can be severed and Danzo can easily use his window.

Overall, I don’t think someone like Sasori is hanging with MS Sasuke. Sasori is pretty fodder compared to MS Sauce.

Even strictly going by portrayal, a Kakashi who had seen FKS Sasuke’s entire arsenal, and wasn’t aware of Mokuton/Shisui’s eye (so Koto)/Izanagi/all those Sharingan eyes was surprised as hell when he found out Sasuke beat Danzo. And he was pretty confident sending BoS Sakura along with Chiyo to fight Sasori, who are both neg diff victims compared to even Hebi Sasuke let alone MS Sasuke.

Danzo was also fighting Sasuke without 3T/MS precog from Shisui’s eye so we didn’t even get to see him fight at his complete potential.

Danzo is tiers above Sasori by all metrics.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
You can just tell Oda is preparing to wank tf out of Loki. Might even top the
2012 Punk Hazzard Law run. One of the greatest Runs by a Character in a One Piece Arc to this day. This combined with his backstory allowed him to surpass Zoro in a Popularity Poll.






What a run this was. Law took out the two strongest opponents, while Luffy was stuck with a 3rd rate fighter. Only time this has happened.

I think Oda has learned his lesson though, but if this is anything to go by Loki will be > Luffy, and then Oda will make him pay taxes for his transgressions.
 
Not really. Even Sakura was able to notice and start dodging Sasori’s attack patterns in a bit that even Chiyo admitted that Sakura didn’t need much help anymore. Someone much more faster and skilled like Danzo should do it, even without Izanagi in play. Maybe one. And Sasori has no idea about it so he’s gonna be surprised and won’t be able to use it.

Wind Release is also more than enough. It was enough to pressure Sasuke to block his Susano’o meaning it can harm Susano’o which is far more durable than anything Sasori has.


Sasori’s fighting style also gets countered with AoE and his chakra strings can be severed and Danzo can easily use his window.

Overall, I don’t think someone like Sasori is hanging with MS Sasuke. Sasori is pretty fodder compared to MS Sauce.

Even strictly going by portrayal, a Kakashi who had seen FKS Sasuke’s entire arsenal, and wasn’t aware of Mokuton/Shisui’s eye (so Koto)/Izanagi/all those Sharingan eyes was surprised as hell when he found out Sasuke beat Danzo. And he was pretty confident sending BoS Sakura along with Chiyo to fight Sasori, who are both neg diff victims compared to even Hebi Sasuke let alone MS Sasuke.

Danzo was also fighting Sasuke without 3T/MS precog from Shisui’s eye so we didn’t even get to see him fight at his complete potential.

Danzo is tiers above Sasori by all metrics.
Chiyo's actually kinda strong. She was one of the few Edo Tensei that wasn't even sealed by the time that Itachi got Kabuto to release the jutsu, despite fighting a KCM Naruto clone
 
Who would win in a fight between Sasori of the Red Sand and Lord Shimura?
Danzo will never be easy to scale because the only fight we have is him jobbing to Sasuke by spamming Izanagi to by time for him to recharge Shisuis eye to use on Obito. He's pretty obviously weaker I think, but at that point Sasuke is fresh off almost killing the Raikage(he was really just losing the numbers game against the 5 kage), and obviously he fought and "beat" Deidara a bit before that. And while Deidara did glaze Sasori quite a bit, I don't think they have a huge gap. I would say Danzo could high or extreme diff, but keep in mind I am not super familiar with Sasori's fight or arc
 
What a run this was. Law took out the two strongest opponents, while Luffy was stuck with a 3rd rate fighter. Only time this has happened.

I think Oda has learned his lesson though, but if this is anything to go by Loki will be > Luffy, and then Oda will make him pay taxes for his transgressions.
Lokibros won't be able to say he's > Luffy for very long

It's not that bad though tbh. He's the MC after all
 
One Piece would honestly be so much better if Oda allowed other characters to genuinely outshine Luffy. He briefly tried it with Law, then immediately pulled back after a popularity poll, which says a lot. What a pussy lol
Lokibros won't be able to say he's > Luffy for very long

It's not that bad though tbh. He's the MC after all
I am almost certain that Oda himself views Loki as stronger than current Luffy, and that is exactly why he established Loki as nerfed in the first place.
 
Titles mean shit to Luffy and Zoro lol.

WB... tied fuckin Roger. Ace died to protect his name. Kaido went up against Shanks and didn't get captured.
Yeah, but Imu realistically should have a better understanding of powerlevels in verse than Luffy and Zoro, and he believed that no one could have beaten HK Harald. 14 years ago is probably about when you had all three title holders being near or around their peak
 
Yeah, but Imu realistically should have a better understanding of powerlevels in verse than Luffy and Zoro, and he believed that no one could have beaten HK Harald. 14 years ago is probably about when you had all three title holders being near or around their peak
What does Imu have to do with Luffy or Zoro? My point was to the guy said "titles don't mean shit." Luffy's catch phrase as the main character is his pursuit of a title.

No one would have beaten a Harald who didn't want to be beaten. Especially if he allowed himself to eat the DF
 
What a run this was. Law took out the two strongest opponents, while Luffy was stuck with a 3rd rate fighter. Only time this has happened.

I think Oda has learned his lesson though, but if this is anything to go by Loki will be > Luffy, and then Oda will make him pay taxes for his transgressions.
Caesar wasn't anything to sneeze at, though, he had shitty physical stats unlike Vergo and Smoker but more than made up for it with his hax. Dude could remove the air from an area, make poison gas, make hallucination gas, make explosions, etc. And he had a Logia body too.
Again, not much of an actual fighter like the other two antagonists of Punk Hazard, but he was definitely more dangerous than them in his own ways.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
One Piece would honestly be so much better if Oda allowed other characters to genuinely outshine Luffy. He briefly tried it with Law, then immediately pulled back after a popularity poll, which says a lot. What a pussy lol

I am almost certain that Oda himself views Loki as stronger than current Luffy, and that is exactly why he had to keep Loki nerfed for months in the first place.
Yea whenever a Luffy aligned character is around Luffy lvl or stronger Oda tends to hide it and tries to trick his own audience into thinking Luffy is stronger than he really is. Only later we find out that Oda had been protecting Luffy in some way.

He protected his image on Egghead, if you read the manga you would never know who fed Luffy. Only via online discussions and the sbs was it revealed he was at Kizaru's mercy. Oda didn't have the balls to draw that image because he knows how bad of a look it is for a mentally nerfed opponent to be staring over his immobile body after he thought his attack worked. Only us nerds would know something like this, it goes over a casual viewer's head.
 
Lmao, there will be a caveat to Loki’s capture. Oda can’t even show what happened to Kaido vs Shanks, and folks still think that he’ll disrespect the guy who made Imu twerk and killed an amped Harald. Oda wasn’t shy of making an amped Harald be a hypetool for Loki, and the legendary fruit that Xebec coveted. No shot that he’ll have Loki lose to the scrub he carried against Harald.
 
What does Imu have to do with Luffy or Zoro? My point was to the guy said "titles don't mean shit." Luffy's catch phrase as the main character is his pursuit of a title.

No one would have beaten a Harald who didn't want to be beaten. Especially if he allowed himself to eat the DF
Luffy and Zoro want the titles and for people to view them as the most free/strongest, but it ultimately doesn't seem like titles are making characters stick out because of there titles in the grand scheme of things. And if we really think about it, why is Luffy finding a treasure going to make him the most free man on the seas anyway,lol? And Zoro's dream just comes off across as irrelevant, in the current year.

Imu's opinion matters because it shows that people in verse do not see titles as gospel, or else Imu would be thinking no one could beat Harald but Whitebeard, Kaido and Mihawk, since he is a man, a creature and a swordsman.
 
One Piece would honestly be so much better if Oda allowed other characters to genuinely outshine Luffy. He briefly tried it with Law, then immediately pulled back after a popularity poll, which says a lot. What a pussy lol

I am almost certain that Oda himself views Loki as stronger than current Luffy, and that is exactly why he established Loki as nerfed in the first place.
I didn’t say he isn’t stronger now

He just won’t be stronger than him for very long imo
 
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