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What will be Loki next power ?


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The run was good and long but the old gen is finished bro this panel was the beginning of the end.
Loki and Luffy are gonna do what they couldn’t.

Joyboy haki did more damage to Imu than this attack.
We have to see the real Imu take damage finally directly and not from some one he give he power to getting hurt effect him.
So that will 100% happen in this arc with Loki and luffy .
 
that still ignore the 2 factors we know that are said to grow in a expectational pace: The seraphim
Well, I guess this one is technically true, but it´s going to be hard for me to believe that they´re really going to reach that strength in the Mangas story itself. And the idea that they´ll be serious antagonists is kind of meh, i mean they´re
Clones
Kids
Robots
Mindless

They aren´t really the type of villains Oda likes, I don´t think. Seems like a filler plot, where they might end up being adopted by the warlords, instead of some cell shit, but idk, you technically have a point I guess.

and the BBP. The seraphim are said to be not reaching the final form and gave the SH as much trouble as the gorosei as kids, and the BBP have growth rates like the Monster trio and seems to parallel them.
I´m a pretty big fan/defender of the BBP, and I do consider them currently stronger than the SHP, which a lot of people don´t, but these guys aren´t really top 10 of all time material. To match up Loki, you´ll probably need EOS Teach himself, they´re pretty similar in a lot of ways(multiple DFs, Dads were equals, one of the fruits Rocks wanted). I mean, we´re in full scale nepo piece, do you really think Rocks´s son is going to have a bunch of subordinates stronger then Haralds son, who also has an extremely strong case of surpassing him, or having already done so?
And oda is a author that is prone to rise stakes and power creep. If your argument is elbaf is the last island the SH visit, so Loki is the strongest ally character, ok. But this ignores also the fact the the arc following this would also go against traditional one piece arc structure than. Also oda lows to shitout powerful characters and villains we never heard of nowhere.
Sure, and in theory, Imu could not actually be the real villain of the government, and someone elses secret subordinate. Anything is possible in theory, but it doesn´t seem like the story is going that way. It seems like this arc is giving us the last of relevant characters who will appear
Rocks(flashback character, but has been hyped for half a decade as pretty much the strongest pirate in recent years)
Shamrock(Shanks´s brother, first technically seen like 6 years ago, hyped as stronger then Shanks 14 years ago)
Loki(legendary giant, the last new arc ally the SHP get, infamous with his own name having global noterity. Technically Elbaf has been hyped for 20 years, but we have our first specific hype for it and Loki from Big Mom, 6-7 years ago)
Gunko(Imu´s personal aide, dating back to 50ish years ago)
Sommers(beat Shakky, who scales above most women in the manga, and since most women are mothers, who are confirmed stronger then Kaido, is above Yonko level. Had legendary clashes with the pirate Kings crew)

Sure, Oda could intro more characters stronger than them, but it seems pretty unlikely at this point, since he already has way too many characters to really do justice. We could easily do 5-10 years off the current plotlines, do you think OP will go on for 20 more years so Oda can powercreep Loki as well? What would be the point?

(oh and, wrt Hk possibly being killed before, yeah but let´s be real, for powerscaling purposes, that doesn´t matter too much. Any ACOC user is killing the average knight, lol. What matters is Imu thinking no one could have killed Harald, implying this guy was legit in the top 1 conversation)
 
@Paperchampion23 Loki’s fruit has gotta be the Forest God DF right?

We know that Luffy has the Sun God fruit obviously, and Imu probably has the Sea God fruit given how his pacts are named. This leaves the Earth God DF and Forest God DF unaccounted for. We know that there were 2 DFs instrumental to Xebec’s plan, and the Nika fruit wasn’t one of them since Xebec doesn’t know who Nika is. So the legendary Elbaf DF must be either the Earth God fruit or Forest God fruit. Imo it makes more sense for Teach to have the Earth God fruit, so Loki has the Forest God fruit. Maybe it’ll be named Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Forest God Elbaf (as a reference to Dorry and Brogy talking about “God Elbaf” all the way back in Little Garden). It’s probably represented by the bird creature on top of the tree in the mural
 
Joyboy haki did more damage to Imu than this attack.
We have to see the real Imu take damage finally directly and not from some one he give he power to getting hurt effect him.
So that will 100% happen in this arc with Loki and luffy .
Imu is EoS level opponent. Apart from fighting his minions nothing will happen.

The only question now is who is the main villain DR Loki or Deep Sea Contract Shamrock.
 
He may rely on what ever fruit power he has more than natural raw physical stats, but I think either way he's definitely the real deal.
Imu will be monster in everything .
Right now he using his DF but there no need for him to use any thing else
Plus this not even the real Imu who can transform into some bigger than even the elders .
Like we saw when sabo was there .
 
Imu is EoS level opponent. Apart from fighting his minions nothing will happen.

The only question now is who is the main villain DR Loki or Deep Sea Contract Shamrock.
This not the real Imu.
Oda will have him get knock out of gunko .
With luffy and loki doing some damage and brook will get Imu out of gunko head.
The set up is there for it .
 
I think Loki is producing lightning not ragnir,if it’s ragnir it would be something unique even for a devil fruit weapon because loki summons it without saying a single word we know that big mom was required to speak to activate her weapons so I think the lightning was something from loki and not Ragnir unless Ragnir has a telepathic connection or a voice of all things situation is going on with Ragnir and loki.
 
Imu actually has good Haki, he's not just a DF merchant.
Then maybe his on Loki's level lol, having Xebec/Harald's tier haki at 17.

Btw, this cope about Loki having a fruit on the level of Imu/Nika Is really the bottom of the barrel.

"Look, how weak this guy Is: he has a god level fruit hyped by anybody, even Xebec!" :Rofl:
 
@Paperchampion23 Loki’s fruit has gotta be the Forest God DF right?

We know that Luffy has the Sun God fruit obviously, and Imu probably has the Sea God fruit given how his pacts are named. This leaves the Earth God DF and Forest God DF unaccounted for. We know that there were 2 DFs instrumental to Xebec’s plan, and the Nika fruit wasn’t one of them since Xebec doesn’t know who Nika is. So the legendary Elbaf DF must be either the Earth God fruit or Forest God fruit. Imo it makes more sense for Teach to have the Earth God fruit, so Loki has the Forest God fruit. Maybe it’ll be named Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Forest God Elbaf (as a reference to Dorry and Brogy talking about “God Elbaf” all the way back in Little Garden). It’s probably represented by the bird creature on top of the tree in the mural
This means Loki will remain Goofys equal at worst
:sanmoji:
 
Then maybe his on Loki's level lol, having Xebec/Harald's tier haki at 17.

Btw, this cope about Loki having a fruit on the level of Imu/Nika Is really the bottom of the barrel.

"Look, how weak this guy Is: he has a god level fruit hyped by anybody, even Xebec!" :Rofl:
Mind you xebec stated he needs a ancient giant like Harald to eat it which means there’s a strength requirement for ragnir and for the fruit to be used for its full potential.Loki down players have no way Around this loki being Harald level at 16 is Stated fact
 
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