Character Discussion Loki for Nakama?

#41
0 x 000 chance

Let's see the character that joins SH post East blue
Chopper
Robin
Franky
Brook
Jinbei

Loki ain't portrayed like that and doesn't belong, sorry
 
#42
They don't need to fit the dynamic, but the flashback and all the focus on that relationship clearly indicates that's where things are heading. Unless Loki has an ability that makes him shrink, he's not joining the main crew.
I don't know man, I completely disagree on the Co-Captain ting.
Hadrujin is a flea compared to Loki, character and strength-wise so the co-captain dymanic doesn't really work imo.
I get the sense you're referring to Harald's comments/wish in the flashback with regards to Hadrujin and Loki working together to support Elbaf but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the form of Co-Captains imo. For example it can go the route of Hadrujin becoming the King of Elbaf, which will improve the discriminatory pure-blood culture of Elbaf and also help preserve Harald's legacy as the truth of Aurust Castle can be buried in secrecy whereas you can have Loki leave Elbaf in Hadrujin's care and challenge the status quo with Luffy which will ultimately be the best solution for preserving Elbaf's future.

With regards to the size ting, I honestly don't think it is a deal breaker. Oda could have Loki shink somehow. Have him fly over the ship if he's a dragon for example or come up with someway to accomodate that. I mean we have San Juan Wolf in the BB Pirates for example, so a giant being part of a human pirate crew so it's not like there is not precedent for it.

Side-rant:
It is realk shame the way Oda's treated Hadrujin tbh. There was so much potential with the character but Oda has completely abandoned any sort of development for him and devoted 110% of his attention to Loki.
 
#43
I don't know man, I completely disagree on the Co-Captain ting.
Hadrujin is a flea compared to Loki, character and strength-wise so the co-captain dymanic doesn't really work imo.
I get the sense you're referring to Harald's comments/wish in the flashback with regards to Hadrujin and Loki working together to support Elbaf but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the form of Co-Captains imo. For example it can go the route of Hadrujin becoming the King of Elbaf, which will improve the discriminatory pure-blood culture of Elbaf and also help preserve Harald's legacy as the truth of Aurust Castle can be buried in secrecy whereas you can have Loki leave Elbaf in Hadrujin's care and challenge the status quo with Luffy which will ultimately be the best solution for preserving Elbaf's future.

With regards to the size ting, I honestly don't think it is a deal breaker. Oda could have Loki shink somehow. Have him fly over the ship if he's a dragon for example or come up with someway to accomodate that. I mean we have San Juan Wolf in the BB Pirates for example, so a giant being part of a human pirate crew so it's not like there is not precedent for it.
So you think hajrudin is riding up right now to get negged?
:josad:
 
#44
So you think hajrudin is riding up right now to get negged?
:josad:
I don't care about Hadrujin fam I'm not gonna lie.
He's a rubbish character. An insecure, weakling with zero critical thinking skills.
It's actually shocking that Ida is his mom, coz the dumbass learnt absolutely nothing from her.
King of the Giants my buttcheeks...mchew
Such a poorly written character...so much potential as well mchew
Anways with regards to is role in the sun world I don't know man, do fodder tings I guess or be a damsel in distress or weak point for Loki I don't know lol
 
#45
I don't care about Hadrujin fam I'm not gonna lie.
He's a rubbish character. An insecure, weakling with zero critical thinking skills.
It's actually shocking that Ida is his mom, coz the dumbass learnt absolutely nothing from her.
King of the Giants my buttcheeks...mchew
Such a poorly written character...
anways with regards to is role in the sun world I don't know man, do fodder tings I guess or be a damsel in distress or weak point for Loki I don't know lol
Brutal
What you think are the match ups than?
 
#48
I don't know man, I completely disagree on the Co-Captain ting.
Hadrujin is a flea compared to Loki, character and strength-wise so the co-captain dymanic doesn't really work imo.
I get the sense you're referring to Harald's comments/wish in the flashback with regards to Hadrujin and Loki working together to support Elbaf but it doesn't necessarily have to be in the form of Co-Captains imo. For example it can go the route of Hadrujin becoming the King of Elbaf, which will improve the discriminatory pure-blood culture of Elbaf and also help preserve Harald's legacy as the truth of Aurust Castle can be buried in secrecy whereas you can have Loki leave Elbaf in Hadrujin's care and challenge the status quo with Luffy which will ultimately be the best solution for preserving Elbaf's future.

With regards to the size ting, I honestly don't think it is a deal breaker. Oda could have Loki shink somehow. Have him fly over the ship if he's a dragon for example or come up with someway to accomodate that. I mean we have San Juan Wolf in the BB Pirates for example, so a giant being part of a human pirate crew so it's not like there is not precedent for it.

Side-rant:
It is realk shame the way Oda's treated Hadrujin tbh. There was so much potential with the character but Oda has completely abandoned any sort of development for him and devoted 110% of his attention to Loki.
Hajrudin has a crew that he's loyal to, and swore an oath to Luffy and the SH. That's unlikely.

I'm not saying there's no way he won't join the main crew, it's def posible for Loki to join even with the current size, i just think it's more likely for him to join Hajrudin.
BB Pirates are not main characters we follow around all the time, they can have characters like San Juan or Pizzaro with crazy Devil Fruits it doesn't really matter for them.
 
#49
Brutal
What you think are the match ups than?
I'm still leaning strongly towards Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Broggy but reckon there is an outside chance of the Gorosei descending on Elbaf to give those two adequate matchups.
Don't really see the Holy Knights as proper matchups for either Zoro or Sanji (they are fodder and they record speaks for itself even more so given they can't use CoC) except of course they are going to be getting one-shot but reckon that will be reserved for Loki and Luffy as they need some sorta win prior to fighting Imuko.

I can see Sanji however interacting with Sommers in some capacity or rather Sommer's thorns as my feel from the last chapter is that he will be delegated to saving the children. There's been a lot of emphasis on love with sommer's thorns so reckon we'd get to see Sanji flex with PoL and save the children and hopefully get a bit more insight on the ability from somebody ^^

Luffy and Loki v Dorry Broggy is also a possiblity tbh.
 
#51
I'm still leaning strongly towards Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Broggy but reckon there is an outside chance of the Gorosei descending on Elbaf to give those two adequate matchups.
Don't really see the Holy Knights as proper matchups for either Zoro or Sanji (they are fodder and they record speaks for itself even more so given they can't use CoC) except they are going to be getting one-shot but reckon that will be reserved for Loki and Luffy as they need some sorta win prior to fighting Imuko.

I can see Sanji however interacting with Sommers in some capacity or rather Sommer's thorns as my feel from the last chapter is that he will be delegated to saving the children. There's been a lot of emphasis on love with sommer's thorns so reckon we'd get to see Sanji flex with PoL and save the children and hopefully get a bit more insight on the ability from somebody ^^
Yeah but even if they are fodder they are potrayed as threats now no?

Like the named relevant fighters are kllingham, summers, dorry, broggy, imunko

and the named relevant fighters from the good side are zoro sanji loki and luffy. Even if we assume that brook will play a role i dont see how is adding up :Think:
 
#53
Yeah but even if they are fodder they are potrayed as threats now no?

Like the named relevant fighters are kllingham, summers, dorry, broggy, imunko

and the named relevant fighters from the good side are zoro sanji loki and luffy. Even if we assume that brook will play a role i dont see how is adding up :Think:
They are not :gonope:
Again this is the Holy Knights history:
Sommers v Gaban - Pretty much a one shot
Sommers v Ray - Got oneshot
Newgate vs Maffey - trash treatment (Newgate didn't even acknowledge her as an opponent)
Xebec v Garling - pretty much negg’d and off panel to boot even with Imu’s buffs & a Domi reversi army for support.

Then there’s Gaban’s statement on how the Roger Pirates packed them up each time the Holy Knights challenged them and also the CoC angle which makes any one of them without it fodder for the most part against competent CoC users.

Keep in mind again that Gaban scolded Zoro this arc to raise his standard in order to be able to support Luffy. Imagine him getting matched up against these bums after that statement. IMO not gonna happen.

holy knights are Imu’s mid tiers so they are gonna be opponents for the mid trio bar shamrock imo.

only characters of relevance imo are Dorry & Broggy & Imuko with the exception of backup coming from Marijoea.

With regards to Brook, I don’t really see him doing anything of relevance to Imuko combat wise but he well get his moment. Gunko prolly dies like Harald did
 
#54
They are not :gonope:
Again this is the Holy Knights history:
Sommers v Gaban - Pretty much a one shot
Sommers v Ray - Got oneshot
Newgate vs Maffey - trash treatment (Newgate didn't even acknowledge her as an opponent)
Xebec v Garling - pretty much negg’d and off panel to boot even with Imu’s buffs & a Domi reversi army for support.

Then there’s Gaban’s statement on how the Roger Pirates packed them up each time the Holy Knights challenged them and also the CoC angle which makes any one of them without it fodder for the most part against competent CoC users.

Keep in mind again that Gaban scolded Zoro this arc to raise his standard in order to be able to support Luffy. Imagine him getting matched up against these bums after that statement. IMO not gonna happen.

holy knights are Imu’s mid tiers so they are gonna be opponents for the mid trio bar shamrock imo.

only characters of relevance imo are Dorry & Broggy & Imuko with the exception of backup coming from Marijoea.

With regards to Brook, I don’t really see him doing anything of relevance to Imuko combat wise but he well get his moment. Gunko prolly dies like Harald did
but the thing is Zoro and Sanji need to learn how to defeat these guys, right now they can't because Zoro didn't even know he has CoC and Sanji probably doesn't even have CoC (i believe Power of Love is actually CoC). When you look at it in this way it makes sense for them to fight these guys just to learn how to defeat them. Think about it, the God's Knights are actually an unstoppable force unless there's someone with a high mastery of ACoC like Gaban. They no diffed all the SH in the Sun World.
 
#55
but the thing is Zoro and Sanji need to learn how to defeat these guys, right now they can't because Zoro didn't even know he has CoC and Sanji probably doesn't even have CoC (i believe Power of Love is actually CoC). When you look at it in this way it makes sense for them to fight these guys just to learn how to defeat them. Think about it, the God's Knights are actually an unstoppable force unless there's someone with a high mastery of ACoC like Gaban. They no diffed all the SH in the Sun World.
To be fair the SH in the sunworld were the midhats :josad:
 
#56
Imu-Gunko vs Luffy
Loki and Harjrudin vs the Drogy brothers
Zoro and Sanji vs Bellingham and Sommers
The rest of the SHs vs ropes.
This seems to be the most plausible right now. Someone has to deal with the 2 God Knights on the ground and who's better than the Wings tbh.
 
#60
nakama fans have jumped the shark. Carrot was a very fine candidate to root for. Unique design, unique fighting style and could fit in a role.

Yamato was a bit iffy. Unique design, Unique fighting style but terrible character and immensely strong.

Any character introduced after those two just don't fit the SHs dynamics at all. Only exception being Bonney after it was revealed that she was a kid.
 
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