[FNZ] Super Role Madness Fire Emblem Three Houses: Customize your character

[Hayumi]

She's barely had an impact on anything, there's one. For two she has skated by with no one bringing her name up, again if I'm looking for misclears this is the sort of thing that sticks out to me. Everything has been pretty safe for her and scum have been content to let that remain so. I also don't think her scun range is that small, rather I think her town game is fairly easy for her to replicate as scum.

Again these were the people that were building a poe and were consistently wrong. Scum have killed them despite that in their cases which means they want that PoE honoured. Again why would that be.

Well nobody’s brought her name up bc everyone’s pretty much town read her iirc so guess if literally everyone is wrong about her then alright but I’m never lynching her over half the players left.

Ekko and Shui were both killed and both had Melkor in their POE so that logic doesn’t fully add up. They also could have been killed bc they are right about some of the poe just as easily as not.

 

[Ratchet]

Like, Ratchet you're arguing with a literal tree stump right now instead of solving. Let's try that.

Who else is there to talk to? I might have more success talking to myself in my PM, that's true. Probably more fun too. I've talked to you. I've talked to Hayumi. I've talked to York, who I think is scum (Hayumi has been alright in his responses though I'm yet to receive an explanation as to why he jumped to "you slipped").

 

[Hayumi]

Who else is there to talk to? I might have more success talking to myself in my PM, that's true. Probably more fun too. I've talked to you. I've talked to Hayumi. I've talked to York, who I think is scum (Hayumi has been alright in his responses though I'm yet to receive an explanation as to why he jumped to "you slipped").

I did respond to that with a giant paragraph btw, you just conveniently skimmed over it twice

 

[Ratchet]

Well nobody’s brought her name up bc everyone’s pretty much town read her iirc so guess if literally everyone is wrong about her then alright but I’m never lynching her over half the players left.

Ekko and Shui were both killed and both had Melkor in their POE so that logic doesn’t fully add up. They also could have been killed bc they are right about some of the poe just as easily as not.

Do you really not see the problem with how someone is just blanket accepted as town and yet the only reasoning that can be brought up in defence of her is either some flimsy meta reads or acting like the monst non-consequential "townie thing" for scum to do is somehow town clearing. Do you really see no issue with the fact that York is still alive despite "everyone pretty much town reading her".

 

[Ratchet]

I did respond to that with a giant paragraph btw, you just conveniently skimmed over it twice

I've responded what I care to respond to. If I've missed something then you can assume I accept what you say, I probably have just missed it but who cares.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

You're invoking your emotional state which in turn creates the dynamic where if I disagree or do anything or say anything I'm going to be out of pocket and risk making volatile emotions worse. It's really not a position I should be in, and I'm calling it out as a logical fallacy.

The situation is over lol. So you’re not. Nothing is being asked of you. You can dismiss it and call it ridiculous lol. Once I snap a bit all the tension is gone. It’s only still going bc it got turned into a discussion I feel the need to defend some (while not saying I don’t recognize it would be better behavior on my part to be a robot who never gets tilted at in mafia).

Like it was a pretty minor snap on my end that’s turning into some silly long discussion lol.

 

[Hayumi]

Do you really not see the problem with how someone is just blanket accepted as town and yet the only reasoning that can be brought up in defence of her is either some flimsy meta reads or acting like the monst non-consequential "townie thing" for scum to do is somehow town clearing. Do you really see no issue with the fact that York is still alive despite "everyone pretty much town reading her".

Not when many players that also know her well like Flower, Prof ect feel pretty similarly. I don’t think every single one of us is off based with York I don’t find her hard to read at all.

Can you explain to me what scum team is killing York over nearly any of the super active names that they’ve killed so far regardless of her being town read or not??

 

[Hayumi]

I don’t see how her being alive is a valid reason to be suspect given the others who are dead and POE lol

 

[bittersweet]

Why do you have me in your PoE @Hayumi?

 

[Ratchet]

The situation is over lol. So you’re not. Nothing is being asked of you. You can dismiss it and call it ridiculous lol. Once I snap a bit all the tension is gone. It’s only still going bc it got turned into a discussion I feel the need to defend some (while not saying I don’t recognize it would be better behavior on my part to be a robot who never gets tilted at in mafia).

Like it was a pretty minor snap on my end that’s turning into some silly long discussion lol.

No, I am, because now for anything I say or do in response, I'm going to have to think "should I say this even if it leads to..." which, when it concerns what is fundamental mafia stuff that I enjoy, isn't really something I should have to do. You can point fingers back at me about being condescending all you like, I've still demonstrated my arguments in full and in fact did that first, anything after that I think is within reason as opposed to appealing to emotions (you) or otherwise taking it to another level of hostility. So ya I think I've been pretty patient with this whole discussion all things considered. I don't need to know any more so consider that my final contribution to this fun conversation.

 

[Hayumi]

Why do you have me in your PoE @Hayumi?

Have you given me enough reason to not put you in it when there are 5 scum left?

 

[Ratchet]

Not when many players that also know her well like Flower, Prof ect feel pretty similarly. I don’t think every single one of us is off based with York I don’t find her hard to read at all.

Can you explain to me what scum team is killing York over nearly any of the super active names that they’ve killed so far regardless of her being town read or not??

Ah so you agree that York hasn't been very central in terms of leading town. So would you agree maybe there is an angle where she has coasted? Don't give me "Flower and Prof said", you have no reason to value their meta reads that highly.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

No, I am, because now for anything I say or do in response, I'm going to have to think "should I say this even if it leads to..." which, when it concerns what is fundamental mafia stuff that I enjoy, isn't really something I should have to do. You can point fingers back at me about being condescending all you like, I've still demonstrated my arguments in full and in fact did that first, anything after that I think is within reason as opposed to appealing to emotions (you) or otherwise taking it to another level of hostility. So ya I think I've been pretty patient with this whole discussion all things considered. I don't need to know any more so consider that my final contribution to this fun conversation.

You can be condescending I can snap back.

If you want me to apologize for trying to give context and give an olive branch with context sure lol. My mistake

 

[Dr_Professor83]

As nicely as possible play stupid games win stupid prizes to a degree lol. Even if the prize giver should chill out and isn’t blameless.

 

[Ratchet]

You can be condescending I can snap back.

If you want me to apologize for trying to give context and give an olive branch with context sure lol. My mistake

I'm not asking for an apology nor am I asking for an olive branch. I would actually rather you snap back than bring out of game emotions into it which was my point earlier. And I frankly don't see why an olive branch would even be needed.

 

[Hayumi]

Ah so you agree that York hasn't been very central in terms of leading town. So would you agree maybe there is an angle where she has coasted? Don't give me "Flower and Prof said", you have no reason to value their meta reads that highly.

Yes, I would never call York the “town leader” type so that does nothing for me in terms of an AI read.

An angle sure. Likely no. I’ve already elaborated with my own explanation, I was mentioning Flower and Prof only context for the comment about you being concerned that she’s still alive as a major point for why you’re suspicious.

In no world do I find it overly scummy simply bc she hasn’t been taken out before the ones that have.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I'm not asking for an apology nor am I asking for an olive branch. I would actually rather you snap back than bring out of game emotions into it which was my point earlier. And I frankly don't see why an olive branch would even be needed.

Bc I felt wrong for snapping. Also Idk what you want me to do now. I was trying to smooth things over. I can’t roll back time which I feel at this point is the only think you’ll except as squared

 

[bittersweet]

Have you given me enough reason to not put you in it when there are 5 scum left?

I would think so? I pushed for Orca last day phase based on his play and have been very vocal about my role after the scrutiny today. I offered to get myself lynched when the Orca flip was wrong.

The only thing I didn't do was be very active in the discord channel.

 

[bittersweet]

I would honestly think RippedCal or Reloaded would be a higher target than me with the current flips.

 

[Ratchet]

Yes, I would never call York the “town leader” type so that does nothing for me in terms of an AI read.

An angle sure. Likely no. I’ve already elaborated with my own explanation, I was mentioning Flower and Prof only context for the comment about you being concerned that she’s still alive as a major point for why you’re suspicious.

In no world do I find it overly scummy simply bc she hasn’t been taken out before the ones that have.

Okay so we are sort of getting somewhere, this is more progress than I made with Prof already.

So let me ask my next question - when town is in this state, where they need to chain 5 successful lynches in a row to save the game... do you think it may perhaps be time to see who may be have been miscleared? As opposed to just walking through the existing PoE that has already been laid out.

A bonus question - do you think Flower and Jan were killed for their reads? Their towniness? Or was it maybe their claim of having a vig role? Because if you allow yourself to believe it is the latter, what better kill to make going into LyLo when you have a PoE already set up into going for a mislynch? Do you think maybe... that might be what the situation is here?