How many Ls is Luffy gonna suffer before finally taking down Domi Reversi God of War Woki?


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They really think we give damn about zoro position in the crew when accomplishing his dream will make him top 1 in the verse :willight:
And how many times have we heard other characters replacing zoro throughout the years:suresure:
You talk about Zoro dream as if he hadn’t forgotten Kuina even existed in the meantime
 
You get the wrong idea,i‘m not arguing that Harald is weaker/stronger then Ragnir.
I was just saying in Haralds mind before Imus powers ,he thought he wasn’t able to do it.

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I see where you're coming from, but I do think we should keep 2 things in mind.

1. Oda pretty intentionally avoided any real conflict between Harald and Ragnir in the FB, and didn't go out of his way to imply that he really tried or even really had a 1v1 with Ragnir before anything happened. He did have Hk Harald say that no one before could tame it, and with his powers, he surely could, but again that isn't necessarily definitive, and I don't think it should change the context that we know about the FB.
2. We still have to keep in mind how the story will go lol. If Ragnir was above Harald/Rocks level, he would be treated as the second biggest threat to the government on the alliance side. Rn, it's clearly looking like Luffy will be that, with Ragnir maybe number 3 after Luffy and Loki. Surely Ragnir is strong for just being a weapon/squirrel, but I think we should wait for something definitive before saying it's stronger than Base Harald lol. Not literally impossible, but let's not set ourselves up and just focus on what is confirmed, which is Loki>Old Gen.
 
@ElderOnitar @MonochromeYoru @Fujishiro I only just recently learned that Vahlok the Jailer defeated pre-HM Miraak

How strong are the dragon priests in the lore exactly? If Vahlok even beat Dragonborn Miraak then Dragonpriests are like the most powerful mortals?
The strongest mortals are probably some broken mages like Mannimarco or Divyath Fyr. Maybe someone from the psijic order, they could do things like stopping time.
 

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Its going to be daijobu.
The giant demon on the left of the mural is most likely Blackbeard,wielding the mother flame and Imus ability along with the full power of Davy jones fruit.The quake fruit will be a little toy in terms of what Actual God tier abilities and characters can do during the final wars.
That mural is from the second world, idk why people want to shoehorn BB like that. He wouldn’t fit being a demon like Imu imo.
 

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So far I like certain aspects of it a lot more than Skyrim. It’s dated but I don’t care. I do think it’s funny that I can just straight up miss like a dozen sword attacks with no explanation other than my agility stat (???)





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@TheAncientCenturion I don’t think I can recover from this unless you change my name tbh
Grynn is cool

but Chadagon is on another level
 
They show the first world on the right and the second on the left, the third isn’t shown as it hasn’t happened yet.
That being the second world doesn’t make any sense with what they where saying at all and how it matches it, the second world described the people as those that killed “the sun “ or obviously joyboy. Unless you think that gigantic demon was Joyboy or nika lol.
 
The demon is Imu, we see Emeth with JB on the left mural.
You could be right and joyboy really pulled a 1,000v20 on imu and still lost lol (joyboy downscale)

but for now I think that part of the mural was obviously for future reference of the third world.

For one it states “The sea god raged!” Which was Poseidon after joyboys death the world flooded and people had to get on a ship. Which is what’s detailed for the second world here.

the king on zunesha seems to be a young nerona Imu who has now become king of the world
 
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@ElderOnitar @MonochromeYoru @Fujishiro I only just recently learned that Vahlok the Jailer defeated pre-HM Miraak

How strong are the dragon priests in the lore exactly? If Vahlok even beat Dragonborn Miraak then Dragonpriests are like the most powerful mortals?
Vahlok most likely jumped Miraak with allies. The shout we get from Vahlok's tomb is an ally buff shout. Probably some powerful dragons also aided Vahlok since Miraak was pretty anti dragons

There's also theories that HM aided Vahlok so he could get Miraak to apocrypha
 
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