Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1176 Spoilers Discussion

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I want my fucking villains to do shit, they literally did nothing but get rekt since the flashback ended. What happened prior doesnt matter because the SHs and co werent involved. I want some fucking stakes when the SHs surmount seemingly crazy odds.
Idk on one hand I hear this but I can’t help but remember how many people complained about Egghead for being nothing like current Elbaf

Actually… people complained about early Elbaf for the same reasons. If the Strawhats are on the backfoot then their development feels unearned and according to some people they don’t feel like a Yonko crew

But if they’re capable of taking on the threats then apparently the villains are no longer threatening and there are no stakes

So where’s the line?
 

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Idk on one hand I hear this but I can’t help but remember how many people complained about Egghead for being nothing like current Elbaf

Actually… people complained about early Elbaf for the same reasons. If the Strawhats are on the backfoot then their development feels unearned and according to some people they don’t feel like a Yonko crew

But if they’re capable of taking on the threats then apparently the villains are no longer threatening and there are no stakes

So where’s the line?
Egghead was problematic because it was an escape arc.
 
Idk on one hand I hear this but I can’t help but remember how many people complained about Egghead for being nothing like current Elbaf

Actually… people complained about early Elbaf for the same reasons. If the Strawhats are on the backfoot then their development feels unearned and according to some people they don’t feel like a Yonko crew

But if they’re capable of taking on the threats then apparently the villains are no longer threatening and there are no stakes

So where’s the line?
I think the biggest issue is that oda wrote the story in a way where tension only exists when he makes the stronger straw hats disappear from the arc. It makes things tense, but it’s hard to ignore the thought “once the others show up everything will be fine.”
 
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