Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1176 Spoilers Discussion

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Bro....Law would have gotten stomped by Vergo if he didn't have haki, and he has a broken ass 5 billion fruit which the fodder midhats don't even come close to with their abilities. Stop tryna cope about Oda's trash tier writing.
If law had better control of his DF he would destroy vergo it just back then he also need haki .
Right now law Df allow would him beat the shit out of vergo no haki need.
With moves like Radio Knife ( which damage kaido insides ) or just his awakening .
It not a matter cope when haki get introduce a hakiless person kick those people ass.
That was always going to be something that happen going forward in fights .
 
dude was above g4 from birth, yeah i see how he's a god tier now lmao
People think we are crazy that we have Loki ranked so high but forgot Loki was doing big mom and kaido introduction feats as 1 day old baby and later as toddler with Kaidos whole “I’m unkillable and I can’t die” thing which Loki was already doing as a toddler.

And the dude pushed rocks into using
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
If law had better control of his DF he would destroy vergo it just back then he also need haki .
Right now law Df allow would him beat the shit out of vergo no haki need.
With moves like Radio Knife ( which damage kaido insides ) or just his awakening .
It not a matter cope when haki get introduce a hakiless person kick those people ass.
That was always going to be something that happen going forward in fights .
Brother....Smoker

-With a logia fruit
-with an iron weapon naturally stronger than a random bamboo stick
-AND HAKI to boot

Was portrayed below Vergo- A dfless man in the same tier as him- simply by having weaker armament than him. Do you understand? Df+weapon+haki, the characters you are referring to don't even have haki, Oda is the one who was emphasizing how important haki is.

Stop with the lame ass excuses. Fillerhats are just plot merchants so Oda is comfortable with whatever asspull victories he has in store for them with or without haki.
 
The weapon that destroyed Lulusia negs Vergo and Law together on PH.

Franky DGAF if you have a haki or DF susanoo. With enough fire power he negs anyone just the same.

DF's are fully intertwined with haki mechanically and thematically. But technology doesn't give a fuck about that nerd shit.
 
Right now law don't even need haki to beat vergo cause he get so good with his DF .
Mind you which is only 3 months in world time lmao .
I chastised ZenZu for giving that example as it's a very situational thing. Law specifically has a fruit where he needs to have better Haki than his opponent, otherwise he gets clapped immediately.
But give him something like the Quake fruit and he kills him in a few seconds.
Haki isn't *that* overpowered, it's just that a fruit like Law's would obviously need some type of limitation otherwise Law could just go around one shotting top tiers.
 
Because most of his fruit's abilities just wouldn't work on people that have better Haki? Lmfao
Most he has is choreographed moves like GK.
Far different from Franky who can just do what he did with Sasaki and trick Vergo into attacking the shogun while he jumps out of it and pops a hole in him with a laser.
Just to be clear, we’re talking about the same guy whose hakiless techniques were seen as dangerous by Kaido and Meme
Counter shock that had Meme screaming her kungs out
The boulder takt that sent her packing off the island only to be saved by her homies
Gamma knife that did more damage to Doflamingo than any Gear4 attack

But yes Franky suprising a dumbass dino is inherently more threatening than the guy with a 5bil df😂
 
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