Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1177 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

To be fair to chopper, his timeskip power up was mainly him being the ability to control and uncontrollable body. Similar things to what other PoL users in Kuma and Sanji do.

Plus isn’t Choppers whole backstory about the link between emotions and the human body?

True, but even if he does have it I doubt he'd use it on random Giants.
It's also just very sudden to give him such a high level of a power up like this. Not that it hasn't happened before, but when it has happened, it's usually with people destined for great things (i.e Luffy and Zoro unlocking ACoA and/or ACoC, Koby unlocking ACoA, etc.)

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

There could be any kind of in story explanation like I said, doesn't mean they would be good though.

fair

 

[MonsterZoro]

chopper showed us why hes not on roof top this chapter instead of zoro

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034071119032996130

 

[Sir Yasheen]

True, but even if he does have it I doubt he'd use it on random Giants.
It's also just very sudden to give him such a high level of a power up like this. Not that it hasn't happened before, but when it has happened, it's usually with people destined for great things (i.e Luffy and Zoro unlocking ACoA and/or ACoC, Koby unlocking ACoA, etc.)

Lets see what exactly he says before going Monster Point (he’s not one to just use this just cause)

And again you’re assuming this would be chopper getting a new power I see it more as chopper just getting an explanation to his power

 

[SakazOuki]

chopper showed us why hes not on roof top this chapter instead of zoro

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034071119032996130

Good

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

I still think Gunko is abovet a majority of commanders except for the pinnacle of the pinnacle

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Lets see what exactly he says before going Monster Point (he’s not one to just use this just cause)

And again you’re assuming this would be chopper getting a new power I see it more as chopper just getting an explanation to his power

Power of Love is a powerup lmao that's the whole reason Sanji fans fawn over it so much

 

[Shiroyru]

If Power of Love is a real power up, I seriously doubt Chopper will get it, especially when it's had no build up
That one just doesn't make sense. What makes a reindeer-human hybrid different from a human in that regard?
The others also make no sense whatsoever
Oda's just a bad writer nowadays. It's fine to admit that, because not even the best writers can escape such a fall off.

Btw, it's funny to me how Oda's angels on this site spend much less time discussing the series than most other people here. If Logiko thinks modern OP is borderline perfect, then why does he spend 95% of his time here in the politics thread?

 

[Veku]

Potentially? to my memory, we ended the FB about 6 or 7 chapters ago, which is about when we started the conflict with the SHP and the Gods Knights. We´re now starting a conflict with Imu, but I believe that Oda will probably want to spend at least 2 or 3 months before ending the arcs conflict. It would be weird if this arc ends up shorter than Egghead, imo. The Gods Knights could concievably get longer fights, since Sommers is clearly not actually down(no confirmation from Imu), and it´s hard to say that Killingham was really taken out by a rope? Again, the full spoilers aren´t even out, so it´s a bit confusing still.

Match ups being set - or about to be set, usually is an indicator for reaching the climax of an arc yes.

Even if he isn't restrained permanently, their confrontation didn't even last a single chapter and this is just another checkmark of their massive list of L's the HK have been catching so far..

If it´s over, I think it´s valid to say that top commanders are above the Gods Knights, except I think Gunko still has a pretty good case of being yc+, she still did neg Jinbei, and was able to harm an off guard Gaban, which I´m not convinced Oda would give the likes of Queen or maybe even Kuri the honor of.

harming anyone off guard isn't worth much of a feat lol.

Idk man, Oda had no issue hyping Katakuri like that:

Like I said, she could be the exception, however
Doub't we'll see her in combat anytime soon or ever again even, but guess we have to see how Gunko's abilities work...But personally with regen, element of surprise and an unknown HAX ability on her side used in a stage of an arc where Oda loves to hype up the villains, I'm not willing to place her above YC1 as of yet based on her performance against the Strawhats.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Power of Love is a powerup lmao that's the whole reason Sanji fans fawn over it so much

Most want it because it’s an explanation to a confusing power set, it’s not instantly causing people to jump tiers.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Wannnnnnnnnnjjijjjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!! Imagine low diffing a Holy Knight without having to use an upgrade.



Loro?!

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

First genuine Chopper W in a long time and @Lebrent is nowhere to be seen

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Match ups being set - or about to be set, usually is an indicator for reaching the climax of an arc yes.

Even if he isn't restrained permanently, their confrontation didn't even last a single chapter and this is just another checkmark of their massive list of L's the HK have been catching so far..


harming anyone off guard isn't worth much of a feat lol.

Idk man, Oda had no issue hyping Katakuri like that:

Like I said, she could be the exception, however
Doub't we'll see her in combat anytime soon or ever again even, but guess we have to see how Gunko's abilities work...But personally with regen, element of surprise and an unknown HAX ability on her side used in a stage of an arc where Oda loves to hype up the villains, I'm not willing to place her above YC1 as of yet based on her performance against the Strawhats.

"I'm not willing to place her above YC1 as of yet based on her performance against the Strawhats."
Meanwhile this same dude used to have a pfp of Doffy sitting on a diamond chair and uses that feat as one of his primary arguments as to why Doffy is an inbetweener like Crocodile or Egghead Law. Lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

First genuine Chopper W in a long time and @Lebrent is nowhere to be seen

Whip out a ouija board, we need the full Chopper brigade for this chapter

 

[Veku]

I'm sure you'll apply the same logic to Sanji jobbing to Doffy in Dressrosa.

Yes I would if there was a well known universal counter that has been etablished.

We know changing the shape rapidly with enough force works, Advcoa does certainly too, but Sanji at that point of time had no counter as far as we know of, so there is no reason to believe that even with intel, the outcome would have been different.

If it turns out Gunko's arrows work in a similar fashion, I'd have no issue admitting she'd legit negged them.

Btw, haven't you guys been arguing for years that parasting Jozu wasn't a legit feat lmfao?

 

[MonochromeYoru]

First genuine Chopper W in a long time and @Lebrent is nowhere to be seen

the og sdfraud

 

[Shiroyru]

Yes I would if there was a well known universal counter that has been etablished.

We know changing the shape rapidly with enough force works, Advcoa does certainly too, but Sanji at that point of time had no counter as far as we know of, so there is no reason to believe that even with intel, the outcome would have been different.

If it turns out Gunko's arrows work in a similar fashion, I'd have no issue admitting she'd legit negged them.

Btw, haven't you guys been arguing for years that parasting Jozu wasn't a legit feat lmfao?

Doffy cheapshotted Jozu

 

[Veku]

"I'm not willing to place her above YC1 as of yet based on her performance against the Strawhats."
Meanwhile this same dude used to have a pfp of Doffy sitting on a diamond chair and uses that feat as one of his primary arguments as to why Doffy is an inbetweener like Crocodile or Egghead Law. Lol

 

[Saint Wentorno]

Usopp will get a new powerup once he wakes up, trust

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]