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[gingerbread]

Maybe Charlie is pocketing me with that check. But I wonder why, I could be yeetable judging by thread sentiments. Switching the wagons from Orca potentially clears him though. He was yelling a lot that Orca is scum complacent wagon.

I think Orca would have been the best check here, but what's done is done. Best info.


@bittersweet Do you really think that Orca is the way to go today? How do you see yesterday events then, we had two scums wagoned and scumteam didn't do a serious attempt for Reloaded?

 

[Flower]

Anyhow, Crying can you link me some of your scum games again please?

 

[RippedCal]

vote lynch: crying

 

[bittersweet]

Half the scum team could have seen that Yoho was the way to go with him being MIA. Much easier, in my opinion, to defend or help defend someone with a active presence in the game.

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

Hmm, I still think the way to go today would be Orca. I think he could be scum aligned with Yoho.

Getting to the point of having to throw darts at a wall and see where it sticks now.

How many mislynches can we afford as town right now?

This is a weird angle to take after we’ve just lynched scum lol

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Paranoia I understand, perma poe is like, what do you want me to do with that? Because you can just as easily be saying that to avoid having to commit to an actual reads on me and try and leverage the thread temperature to shut me up. All the while not actually committing to a real read.

Well I’m not trying to silence u

not really trying to push u either

I’m just admitting I think I might be too dumb to read u properly as either alignment so I’ve opted to not

it’s literally why I’ve been saying “if ratchet is cooking then they’ll self resolve so we don’t have to worry about ratchet cuz there’s no way scum don’t just fearkill them / there’s no way ratchet doesn’t just carry”

idk ive also attempted pushing good players like u in the past and they end up flipping town or they end up getting supper pissed off at me and I’m just like “welp I have totally messed up again”

so yeah I’m trying to say I’m Sus that u aren’t cooking rn and not dead but also I’m trying to give u some space to still cook if I’m wrong

but I will also admit I’m too afraid and probably too dumb to read u and this is my place in the mafia game

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

Yeah but I don’t recall u ever voting bs

there’s a difference between pestering and genuinely wanting someone dead (in-game) and I learned that the hard way by misclearing someone the same way u want me to clear you. Genuine malice and toxicity are my number 1 most unpairing things I look for cuz it’s hardest to fake

I cannot stress enough that simply voting for somebody, unless it is an EoD vote on a near-wagon, is not in any way clearing. The fact that I've never voted bittersweet is irrelevant to anything. I also never voted Jan IIRC, and I suspected him for the entire first 2 days of the game.

Yes, there *is* a difference in pestering someone, and genuinely wanting someone dead. I pester bittersweet because *I don't want to mislynch him if he is town* so I'm on his case poking at things and trying to understand his mindset and get him to actually do something that I can get my teeth into and go "Yeah, this is definitely town, I can see where Flower is coming from" and I continue to pester because I have yet to see that.

You think Orca genuinely wanted Cal dead?

That there was "genuine malice and toxicity" in his dealings with Cal?

Because here it is:

The only way I'm rationalizing Cal's reactions are if he is scum here

Rationalising.

Ouch. Cal must still be feeling the burn from all that rational malice.

I'm going to take a break now because I can already feel myself getting more annoyed and sarcastic with you with every post, and I don't want to be annoyed and sarcastic with you because I do think you're probably town. But your application of your own logic is just incredibly erratic and frustrating.

Also I've been "home" for over an hour and haven't eaten yet.

 

[Charlie]

@Ratchet

You knew you were blocked because of some passive that informs you of your visitors or sth similar or due to nature of your abilities?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Anyhow, Crying can you link me some of your scum games again please?

Yeah I’ll self iso to pull up the 2 most recent ones I’ve sent already

 

[bittersweet]

This is a weird angle to take after we’ve just lynched scum lol

How so? There's nothing I've seen that clears him and there's still 5? scum remaining in this game

 

[Charlie]

Half the scum team could have seen that Yoho was the way to go with him being MIA. Much easier, in my opinion, to defend or help defend someone with a active presence in the game.

Yoho had ability that made his kill absolete if he's the last one standing though. Mafia could've hoped for sub or sth

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

I cannot stress enough that simply voting for somebody, unless it is an EoD vote on a near-wagon, is not in any way clearing. The fact that I've never voted bittersweet is irrelevant to anything. I also never voted Jan IIRC, and I suspected him for the entire first 2 days of the game.

Yes, there *is* a difference in pestering someone, and genuinely wanting someone dead. I pester bittersweet because *I don't want to mislynch him if he is town* so I'm on his case poking at things and trying to understand his mindset and get him to actually do something that I can get my teeth into and go "Yeah, this is definitely town, I can see where Flower is coming from" and I continue to pester because I have yet to see that.

You think Orca genuinely wanted Cal dead?

That there was "genuine malice and toxicity" in his dealings with Cal?

Because here it is:



Rationalising.

Ouch. Cal must still be feeling the burn from all that rational malice.

I'm going to take a break now because I can already feel myself getting more annoyed and sarcastic with you with every post, and I don't want to be annoyed and sarcastic with you because I do think you're probably town. But your application of your own logic is just incredibly erratic and frustrating.

Also I've been "home" for over an hour and haven't eaten yet.

I mean sure but Orca had Cal in the very bottom of his reads and was voting Cal for a while

Me personally I don’t believe that scum tell each other “hey I’m gonna put u in the bottom of my reads in my very first read list despite us not really interacting, and I’m also gonna push for u all while the wagons are t/t and no one is suspicious of either of us yet. I’m sure you’re fine with this”

the other most unpairing thing I look for is drawing unnecessary attention for a prolonged period of time, and that’s what orca is doing here

 

[Ratchet]

Well I’m not trying to silence u

not really trying to push u either

I’m just admitting I think I might be too dumb to read u properly as either alignment so I’ve opted to not

it’s literally why I’ve been saying “if ratchet is cooking then they’ll self resolve so we don’t have to worry about ratchet cuz there’s no way scum don’t just fearkill them / there’s no way ratchet doesn’t just carry”

idk ive also attempted pushing good players like u in the past and they end up flipping town or they end up getting supper pissed off at me and I’m just like “welp I have totally messed up again”

so yeah I’m trying to say I’m Sus that u aren’t cooking rn and not dead but also I’m trying to give u some space to still cook if I’m wrong

but I will also admit I’m too afraid and probably too dumb to read u and this is my place in the mafia game

I'm going to be plain I'm playing this game mostly for Fuji's sake. So what I'm giving is what you're getting, my poe is known and hasn't really changed (if Polar is reading Orca as town probably bump Orca up one and BTAM can go up a tier too)

 

[bittersweet]

Yoho had ability that made his kill absolete if he's the last one standing though. Mafia could've hoped for sub or sth

At this point? I doubt it. They probably figured they could lose him without compromising their current position

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

How so? There's nothing I've seen that clears him and there's still 5? scum remaining in this game

I more meant the sulking that you’re just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks and asking how many mislynches we can afford. Feels like you’re posting from a strange angle as if we’ve just mislynched 3 times in a row or something lol

Orca could still be scum, but I’m like 95% sure crying is. There’s no reason they can’t be aligned but read the way crying was trying to defend Yoho yesterday lol, he was reaching and then changing the narrative when challenged. There was pretty much no good reason to be reading Yoho town at that point. For a minute I got a little paranoid that it was TMI from him and that Yoho would be town but since he flipped scum I’m pretty sure he was just trying to make sure orca was lynched.

Whether that’s because orca is town or because they’d decided he was the one they wanted to bus, I don’t know. Yoho had more defenders so probably better to keep around if they were both scum. If you read Yoho’s role, it was pretty powerful. He was a redirector and his kills all became super kills if he was the last mafia standing so it’s a role they’d want to keep around

 

[Ratchet]

@Ratchet

You knew you were blocked because of some passive that informs you of your visitors or sth similar or due to nature of your abilities?

My ability gives me feedback and I received none. Ergo I knew I was blocked.

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

At this point? I doubt it. They probably figured they could lose him without compromising their current position

I’m confused as to why you think this applies to Yoho and not orca?

 

[Charlie]

About Yoho votes btw

First 2 people to vote him last dp were Flower followed by BTAM (Orca at 4, Relo at 3), tbf BTAM switched vote back and forth between him and Orca but ended on Orca too (so you can see it as him being 2nd or 4th Yoho voter)

He was then voted by Polar and Cal (Orca at 6)

Then relo, bs, me and hime joined in that order

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

I mean sure but Orca had Cal in the very bottom of his reads and was voting Cal for a while

Me personally I don’t believe that scum tell each other “hey I’m gonna put u in the bottom of my reads in my very first read list despite us not really interacting, and I’m also gonna push for u all while the wagons are t/t and no one is suspicious of either of us yet. I’m sure you’re fine with this”

the other most unpairing thing I look for is drawing unnecessary attention for a prolonged period of time, and that’s what orca is doing here

We have played mafia games in some very different places.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

My ability gives me feedback and I received none. Ergo I knew I was blocked.

Just claim it already

tracker is dead. Flower claimed watcher. Charlie claimed cop. What else could u hav?