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[Crying bc no Cryo]

I'll get over it, I don't really care about appeasing scum.

@Flower thoughts on Ratchet’s POE?

 

[Flower]

@Flower thoughts on Ratchet’s POE?

I think having you two as aligned is cap. I‘m just using my one shot on him if Bitter flips scum.

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

What reason are you scum reading me this game? As to why, I've had you as a slight scum lean most of this game and your play so far since the start of this day phase doesn't convince me you're helping town solve.

Vote Lynch Shuijing

Definitely not paired.

Because my suspicions of you are not correlated to you voting for me? I don't care who votes for me. I try to maintain an abstract picture of the game as a whole and look for suspicious or outside the norm plays. You normally contribute more when town and haven't so far this game.

The irony tickles me.

Is it really far-fetched? The vig could have intended to shoot the player before they were subbed. There's plenty of people who have openly claimed so in multiple games that they either day lynch or vig shoot him.

Now, they could have seen the slot becoming useful with a new pair of eyes when Watson subbed in for him and the scum wanted to eliminate that because Watson would have a lot more credibility as a player for guiding town actions than Alexis lately.

Another thought that I struggle to see as real.

Why do you have such a driving urge to label me as scum this game?

Overreaction to being in ginger PoE

So top three candidates for lynch today so far:
- Cry
- Shuijing
- tepig

Weird shoe-horn of Shui/BTAM

Also, I don't know what more you want me to say TAG. You may not have played with me before but that's how I play. Ask any of the other players.

I have to wonder why no players other than Flower are townreading bitter when bitter seems to think his play this game is AI of town for him.

Rej, you're not exactly convincing me you're not scum-aligned here man.

Unsure whether this is a S/S interaction or not. There's a weird tameness around it.

You shush, you. Go back to your igloo and telling us if your brother is scum this game.

TMI Polar town?

I mean Rej is on my scum pile currently so I could see that being a path to take for a lynch. Though, I'm not sure if they are a best target.

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Possibly Shu or Marimo maybe. I would say York but she could just be avoiding the thread. Having read up on the current thread state, I'm not sure. There's a lot of players this game who have been ghosting for whatever reason.

Juliet had a really strong thread presence in the first day phase but it feels like she's faded into silence with this one. Yoho is playing like his typical self lately, neither giving strong town or scum vibes. Could be either or indie again.

Rej not defending their slot or claiming could be them giving up or something else.

Not sure if the lack of thread presence of Orca or Polar is a good thing either. It feels like we have a small presence of possibly all town and maybe one or two scum all pointing fingers at each other while dancing to the tune of the scum team, again.

It looks like Rej is going to be the winning wagon at this rate. Not sure why Marimo is getting such a pass other than they're inactive at the moment.

If 'rule of three' is a thing here, I'd be squinting at York over this. If rule of three isn't a thing, then Shui / York probably town if Bittersweet scum.
Placement of Juliet/Yoho weird.
Rej lukewarm nothing-read.
If bittersweet flips scum, then placement of Orca/Polar reads may echo Juliet/Yoho (one town, one scum, as a way of equalising the two by making the town look scummier and the scum look townier)
Super don't like the FoS on Marimo (and by extension the people "allowing" the pass)

She's (Juliet) not in my top three right now anyway. I would rather go Rej, Shu or Marimo.

Options options

He hasn't been actively solving as far as I can see. He doesn't seem to have any clear or concrete reads other than me being scum for whatever reason.

Just doesn't mirror his town play lately.

More unpairing with Shui/BTAM

And why not? Unless you have information I don't, nothing in their play has cleared them town.

I would believe them giving something more than they have so far would help clear them as town for me.

Tries to force Shui to claim so that he can use mech to clear them.

Refuses to share own claim with the group to help us clear him.

Meh.

I said they were on my scum pile? Just because I was wrong on them being the best target doesn't negate the fact that they were there.

Reads as "Why are you suspecting me for not voting my partner when they were in my PoE?"

But maybe I'm conf-biasing.

Slight Town Leans:
- Flower
- Lord Melkor
- TheAverageGuy
- hime
- Jan

Null:
- gingerbread
- Ratchet
- York (trending down)
- Yoho (claims to be a good noodle but plays like scum a lot of games lately)
- RippedCal
- Juliet (trending down, hope activity this weekend can sway one way or the other)
- Mr. Reloaded

Slight Scum Lean:
- Poyser/BTAM
- Hayumi (not sure if the lack of real thread presence from them is any indication of alignment one way or another)
- Charlie
- Pot Goblin
- Crying
- Orca
- Polar Bear
- tepig

Towns are:

Flower
town
me (town)
hime (?)
Jan (town)

Scum are:

BTAM (?)
town
cop
town
Crying (?)
Orca (?)
Polar (?)
indie 3p

I would probably say 1-2 scum in scum reads, and the rest are in null (where Yoho was)

You haven't made a reads list or given any indication of solving, it's mostly fluff posting with a few random votes thrown in at Flower and Marimo.

Vaguely echoes thoughts on Shui, may support unaligned read

I will definitely agree that tepig's defense is better than the lazy responses before when prompted. It lends credence to the plausibility of town. Not sure why Orca does that. If you want me to firmly slot you town, convince me why you think those on your list are possibly scum.

What do you think of the list drop and departure @Jan?

Not easy to tell who bitter is talking to, even reading this within context. "lends credence to the plausibility of town" is just... I don't know. Does bittersweet have read commitment issues?

Don't know what to think about the Jan ping. Could be looking for an out, or I could be confbiasing at this point.

My suspicions of you have nothing to do with your activity. I have been burned too many times by underestimating you and we're beginning to get to the point where some of the 'town' read players have to be considered as possibilities for scum.


I don't assume anything. I merely saw your list and pushed you on why.

I don't know why town-bitter would push 'town' read players over his owns scum reads.

Ironically, this duel will clear one of the two I have on my scum lean list. And then if we manage to get the lynch on Orca, that will clear a third.

Vote Lynch The Orca

Need to check the timing of this vote around tepig claim and other wagons to determine whether it could have been distancing or not.

Clear may have been the wrong choice of word, but it will either confirm my POE or it will prove I read one wrong again. Either way, there are three players in my POE involved in actions resolving end of day.

This is weird to me. Bittersweet saying the outcome of the duel would confirm or disprove PoE... but BTAM duelling Goblin (both of whom were null to bitter at the time) should've told her already that they were never aligned. Not much critical thought is going into what he's posting.

True but the lack of consistency isn't exactly clearing either. He had me in his PoE. Why switch off me for the second night?


Not a bad way to go. Could see Mr. Reloaded being a good lynch for today, Orca tomorrow and work the rest of the PoE the following days.

We know how well that worked out.

Won't know if Yoho is a good or bad noodle until he does something one way or another to convince us. Are we hoping by not speed running the day that someone else might slip up?

This is interesting. Bittersweet was hellbent on trying to get Shui to claim on D2, so that he could "help clear his slot". But Yoho just gets a shrug.

Also... "someone else"... is that TMI of Yoho before his flip?

You're welcome to think so but you would be wrong. I'm most certainly not scum.

I think your efforts would be better invested in Yoho, Reloaded or any other number of possible scum.

But if you want to waste your time tunneling me, go ahead.

I wish Charlie had lie-detected this.

Another over-reaction to being in a PoE (this time at me, not ginger)

Vote Lynch The Orca

Potentially good look for Orca if bitter is scum, but still need to check wagons/timings and end vote to rule out distancing.

I haven't cleared it and the flip of Pot being town doesn't look good but I don't think a wagon on him will gain any significant traction right now.

Reads as evasive reason for not pushing BTAM but I can't tell whether it's too scummy to be scum at this stage.

Well, he's in my PoE so it can't hurt to see him flip either. Not sure why he's so avoidant on claiming to clear himself.

Vote Lynch Yoho

So, so funny.

Hmm, I still think the way to go today would be Orca. I think he could be scum aligned with Yoho.

Getting to the point of having to throw darts at a wall and see where it sticks now.

How many mislynches can we afford as town right now?

FoS Orca but voted Crying yesterday and today.

Half the scum team could have seen that Yoho was the way to go with him being MIA. Much easier, in my opinion, to defend or help defend someone with a active presence in the game.

Shade on Yoho wagon? His vote was on Crying. Bittersweet as scum is probably a good look for Yoho voters.

How so? There's nothing I've seen that clears him and there's still 5? scum remaining in this game

Potentially good look for Orca - with the caveat that my 'unpairing' reads become less accurate after D2 because scum start to think more positionally.

Slight Town Leans:
- Flower
- TheAverageGuy
- hime
- Polar Bear (Yoho had him as a firm suspect early on, feel like this clears him as town, though could it be distancing between teammates?)
- Hayumi

Null:
- gingerbread (Yoho had him listed as scum suspect or scum adjacent, possible distancing or town?)
- Ratchet
- York
- RippedCal
- Mr. Reloaded

Slight Scum Lean:
- Poyser/BTAM
- Charlie
- Crying
- Orca

Towns are:

Flower (?)
me (town)
hime (?)
Polar (?)
town

Scum are:

BTAM (?)
cop
Crying (?)
Orca (?)

Weirdly bumps up Polar/Hayumi after Charlie cops them, but not gingerbread after he's lie-detected? I would say unfavourable look for Polar if bittersweet flips scum.

Because those are the only ones officially confirmed town in my eyes. Charlie can be town but the rest are either null or slight scum.

Confirmed Town:
- Hayumi
- Charlie

Slight Town Leans:
- Flower
- TheAverageGuy
- hime
- Polar Bear (Yoho had him as a firm suspect early on, feel like this clears him as town, though could it be distancing between teammates?)

Null:
- gingerbread (Yoho had him listed as scum suspect or scum adjacent, possible distancing or town?)
- Ratchet
- York
- RippedCal

Slight Scum Lean:
- Poyser/BTAM
- Crying
- Orca
- Mr. Reloaded

I just don't even know what's going on here.

Why are we not even discussing the possibility of Ratchet being scum? He's too good of a player to just clear without mech.

Ok look for Ratchet if bittersweet is scum. Not entirely clearing though.

I don't even know what you're going on about TAG. I'm town and have been town. It's fine for you to think otherwise, but can we invest energy in flipping someone we all agree on. I don't rule Cry out as possible scum but I don't think we'll reach a consensus on it.

We have 4 scum left. We should be trying to hit them each lynch if possible.


And catch up on our webtoon.

We don't actually know how many scum we have left.


@Crying bc no Cryo I'm going to end the ISO there because it's as up to date as I'm willing to go.

Nothing has really changed for me. Bittersweet still has scum potential, and I know some of my posts are probably confbiasing. I think Orca looks better than Polar from a bittersweet scum flip, and I would consider Orca and Ratchet as mildly unpaired with bittersweet from this, but not with as much confidence from me as my D1-2 unpaired readings.

I need food and coffee.

 

[Flower]

If I get killed I used the first ability under Ivy Cugdel on Ratchet.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Also @Ratchet do u really believe town is getting dunked on by a team with me bittersweet GB Yoho and Rej???

 

[Flower]

If I get killed I used the first ability under Ivy Cugdel on Ratchet.

@Crying bc no Cryo

 

[Ratchet]

If 'rule of three' is a thing here, I'd be squinting at York over this. If rule of three isn't a thing, then Shui / York probably town if Bittersweet scum.

BTAM replaced Shui btw. Unless you meant BTAM & York.

 

[Flower]

Well, I guess it’s obvious it won’t be the second one if I do die lmao.

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

BTAM replaced Shui btw. Unless you meant BTAM & York.

Yes, I was just using the slot names interchangeably here.

 

[Ratchet]

Also @Ratchet do u really believe town is getting dunked on by a team with me bittersweet GB Yoho and Rej???

It's WG town it's not hard to dunk all over it. Given that you've basically been impossible to lynch and ginger gets town read for doing... nothing, sure, yeah we're getting dunked all over.

 

[Flower]

Ginger feels like he dropped off the face of the planet today.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Definitely not paired.



The irony tickles me.



Another thought that I struggle to see as real.



Overreaction to being in ginger PoE



Weird shoe-horn of Shui/BTAM



I have to wonder why no players other than Flower are townreading bitter when bitter seems to think his play this game is AI of town for him.



Unsure whether this is a S/S interaction or not. There's a weird tameness around it.



TMI Polar town?



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If 'rule of three' is a thing here, I'd be squinting at York over this. If rule of three isn't a thing, then Shui / York probably town if Bittersweet scum.
Placement of Juliet/Yoho weird.
Rej lukewarm nothing-read.
If bittersweet flips scum, then placement of Orca/Polar reads may echo Juliet/Yoho (one town, one scum, as a way of equalising the two by making the town look scummier and the scum look townier)
Super don't like the FoS on Marimo (and by extension the people "allowing" the pass)



Options options



More unpairing with Shui/BTAM



Tries to force Shui to claim so that he can use mech to clear them.

Refuses to share own claim with the group to help us clear him.

Meh.



Reads as "Why are you suspecting me for not voting my partner when they were in my PoE?"

But maybe I'm conf-biasing.



Towns are:

Flower
town
me (town)
hime (?)
Jan (town)

Scum are:

BTAM (?)
town
cop
town
Crying (?)
Orca (?)
Polar (?)
indie 3p

I would probably say 1-2 scum in scum reads, and the rest are in null (where Yoho was)



Vaguely echoes thoughts on Shui, may support unaligned read



Not easy to tell who bitter is talking to, even reading this within context. "lends credence to the plausibility of town" is just... I don't know. Does bittersweet have read commitment issues?

Don't know what to think about the Jan ping. Could be looking for an out, or I could be confbiasing at this point.



I don't know why town-bitter would push 'town' read players over his owns scum reads.



Need to check the timing of this vote around tepig claim and other wagons to determine whether it could have been distancing or not.



This is weird to me. Bittersweet saying the outcome of the duel would confirm or disprove PoE... but BTAM duelling Goblin (both of whom were null to bitter at the time) should've told her already that they were never aligned. Not much critical thought is going into what he's posting.



We know how well that worked out.



This is interesting. Bittersweet was hellbent on trying to get Shui to claim on D2, so that he could "help clear his slot". But Yoho just gets a shrug.

Also... "someone else"... is that TMI of Yoho before his flip?



I wish Charlie had lie-detected this.

Another over-reaction to being in a PoE (this time at me, not ginger)



Potentially good look for Orca if bitter is scum, but still need to check wagons/timings and end vote to rule out distancing.



Reads as evasive reason for not pushing BTAM but I can't tell whether it's too scummy to be scum at this stage.



So, so funny.



FoS Orca but voted Crying yesterday and today.



Shade on Yoho wagon? His vote was on Crying. Bittersweet as scum is probably a good look for Yoho voters.



Potentially good look for Orca - with the caveat that my 'unpairing' reads become less accurate after D2 because scum start to think more positionally.



Towns are:

Flower (?)
me (town)
hime (?)
Polar (?)
town

Scum are:

BTAM (?)
cop
Crying (?)
Orca (?)

Weirdly bumps up Polar/Hayumi after Charlie cops them, but not gingerbread after he's lie-detected? I would say unfavourable look for Polar if bittersweet flips scum.



I just don't even know what's going on here.



Ok look for Ratchet if bittersweet is scum. Not entirely clearing though.



We don't actually know how many scum we have left.


@Crying bc no Cryo I'm going to end the ISO there because it's as up to date as I'm willing to go.

Nothing has really changed for me. Bittersweet still has scum potential, and I know some of my posts are probably confbiasing. I think Orca looks better than Polar from a bittersweet scum flip, and I would consider Orca and Ratchet as mildly unpaired with bittersweet from this, but not with as much confidence from me as my D1-2 unpaired readings.

I need food and coffee.

Is this enough to convince u to waste your vote on Orca today over possibly voting BS?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Ginger feels like he dropped off the face of the planet today.

He did the same thing for the Orca / Yoho vote iirc

 

[Flower]

He did the same thing for the Orca / Yoho vote iirc

If Bitter flips scum go Ginger tomorrow tbh.

 

[Flower]

I assume I‘m going to die tonight because I feel the only reason I‘m alive was my shield on Bitter.

 

[gingerbread]

let's consider wifom

won't bitter just prepare some claim as scum, he had, like, how long this game has been going for, 2 weeks to do so? xD

 

[Ratchet]

If Bitter flips scum go Ginger tomorrow tbh.

Does Crying need to post his role PM to get lynched? Serious question. We're lynching Crying tomorrow if not today, end of story.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

If Bitter flips scum go Ginger tomorrow tbh.

Absolutely

I’m convinced BS GB and Ratchet are scum atp

it’s whether the last is BTAM and I’m misclearing them off Yoho OR TAG has been absolutely playing a brilliant game

 

[Flower]

let's consider wifom

won't bitter just prepare some claim as scum, he had, like, how long this game has been going for, 2 weeks to do so? xD

Okay. How do you explain him hinting and softing his abilities when he has such a claim restriction he can’t even claim claim restricted supposedly.

 

[gingerbread]

Ginger feels like he dropped off the face of the planet today.

I've got no time to play, I preferred 48h days 😒