Controversial General Political Discussion

[Roo]

No Druze village would ever let them in after 2008 tho

I actually read that Druze and Christians in Southern Lebanon actually hate the Shia because of Hezbolla

I also read that Syrians also refuse Shia refugees due to Hezbollah actions

Ryan Grimm is a known Russian op so idk how truthful his reporting is but I doubt that it’s as simple as Muslim bad

 

[Midnight Delight]

actually read that Druze and Christians in Southern Lebanon actually hate the Shia because of Hezbolla

The secret is that nobody actually likes anyone in Lebanon, other than maybe Orthodox Christians who just chill in their homes

Christians can't even stand each other , not even Catholic Maronites and Greek Catholics who belong to the same Religion

 

[Roo]

The secret is that nobody actually likes anyone in Lebanon, other than maybe Orthodox Christians who just chill in their homes

Christians can't even stand each other , not even Catholic Maronites and Greek Catholics who belong to the same Religion

Religion was a mistake

 

[Logiko]

Religion was a mistake

Religion was an inevitability

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Religion was a mistake

We need atheists with super powers /s

The Secular Justice League

 

[Midnight Delight]

Religion was a mistake

You think this is only about religion?

 

[Roo]

You think this is only about religion?

Yes

 

[Blax Blah]

Religion was a mistake

Christianity started the abolitionist movement

 

[Blax Blah]

And created massive literacy rates due to the encouragement for everyone to read the Bible

 

[Midnight Delight]

And created massive literacy rates due to the encouragement for everyone to read the Bible

*Judaism

 

[Roo]

Christianity started the abolitionist movement btw

Christians also participated in slavery, so did Jews and Muslims

don’t get what your point is

 

[Midnight Delight]

Christians also participated in slavery, so did Jews and Muslims

don’t get what your point is

We banned it 1000 years ago btw

 

[Roo]

We banned it 1000 years ago btw

The followers of Ali never were good enough to conquer land anyways

 

[Halyup]

Trump is desperate i doubt he would nuke . I doubts Mullahs will cower in they are equally stubborn.

only solution is accept the inevitable Donald you lost .

Trump wont use nuke but his pal netanyahu will

 

[Midnight Delight]

The followers of Ali never were good enough to conquer land anyways

To this day both Banu Omar and Christians are seething about the Fatimids btw

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Odd question. What actually is the most democratic state in the Middle East?

Western media has conventionally said it was Israel, but the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank obviously casts doubt on these claims.

The gulf states are all monarchies. Iran is a dictatorship.

I was looking into Lebanon. They seem promising. But while better than Israel, they don’t really treat Palestinians well either. You basically have generations of them born in Lebanon without citizenship.

Would it be a North African country? Tunisia perhaps?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Western media has conventionally said it was Israel, but the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank obviously casts doubt on these claims.

What relevance does that have to do with Democracy, Democracy is why the Rape incident was even exposed

You basically have generations of them born in Lebanon without citizenship.

Only Sunni want Palestinians to get citizenship in Lebanon, you know why

 

[Roo]

Odd question. What actually is the most democratic state in the Middle East?

Western media has conventionally said it was Israel, but the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank obviously casts doubt on these claims.

The gulf states are all monarchies. Iran is a dictatorship.

I was looking into Lebanon. They seem promising. But while better than Israel, they don’t really treat Palestinians well either. You basically have generations of them born in Lebanon without citizenship.

Would it be a North African country? Tunisia perhaps?

Democracies can occupy land and still be a democracy tf lmao

 

[Owl Ki]

Why am I being quoted? My post still stands. There were people dumb enough to claim they were going to neuter themselves over Trump winning an election. Spaying yourself like a stray cat because you can't handle an election result is in fact still idiotic. Lol.

Also, additional counterpoint, I've never been a Trump supporter.

Trump got hit with the current Shittenyahu curse that is going around. The Israeli PM comes over for a visit and Donald is now talking mad smack about another potential Middle East invasion, this time against Iran in order to defend Israel from the consequences of its own choices.

Spoiler

His support base supports him because he isn't a neo-con warhawk. If he starts talking like one and not putting "America first!", voters are going to lose interest in him.

They support him out of desperation, out of the belief that he will meaningfully change something. That he will halt the decline, that he will stop the endless overseas wars fought in the interests of Raytheon's profits and that he will "drain the swamp" of the oligarchs that hold the real power.

They think to themselves that Trump just didn't get the chance to drain it last time, that his time was simply cut short, that he didn't quickly acquire enough power to curb the oligarchs, that the COVID-19 pandemic stole his momentum, that he was undermined by loyal swamp denizens in his administration like Pence and Bolton.

Trump was a snake oil salesman that sold them the product of himself and just like any salesman what he really wanted was personal profit. He's never going to drain the swamp. He's as much a toad as the rest of its denizens.

The only thing he truly hated about the oligarch political dynasties was that he and his clan weren't amongst their ranks. The reason the established dynasties hate him is because they hate the idea of an outsider waltzing in and setting his own place at the table without kissing feet first. The petty lawfare launched against him was very much real. Apart from that, Trump is useful in making voters believe that there is some meaningful fundamental choice to be made when there actually isn't.

Trump will still ultimately answer to the same interests as the rest of the political establishment, just like he did last time because it was in his personal interest to. There will be no meaningful change because the system is designed so that people cannot vote against it. There is no voting out of the quagmire that is the swamp. The Hegemony Wars waged in the interests of Raytheon's wallet and BlackRock's investments will continue, Yanks and their children will die to to defend apartheid Zionism and the oligarchs will continue to plunder the decaying corpse of the United States until there is nothing left to horde.

Nothing short of revolution or separatism is going to allow people to escape the system.

Trump is just a symptom of American decline, not the cause. The only reason no other President started open conflict with Iran wasn't because they were more moral or respectful of human life or whatever, it was because they weren't stupid enough to try it due to strategic weakness. Trump is the first US president dumb enough to unequivocally listen to Satanyahu Mileikowsky and he's gotten burned for it. Lol.

 

[Midnight Delight]

I don't think Trump is using Nukes