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I would drop One Piece if these are Zoro and Sanji’s Final Arc Opponents , future opponents that’s fine. But FINAL ONE PIECE ARC? Killingham and Sommers? Unless they magically Surpass Gorosei & Admirals doesn’t make much sense.
Well, I can see them beign defeated between Final Arc and this arc. When SH will face HK the second time
 

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SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
By the way to all the gorosei stans out there who also debated and coped their ass out:

This chapter is ultimate proof that if oda wanted, he would absolutely let them show strength like imu did in just one chapter, and still let the SH escape (they obviously not gonna die here)
Conclusion:
Pissjuro and co are really that incompetent and weak


Any "but narrative" cope goes into the dumpster
 
By the way to all the gorosei stans out there who also debated and coped their ass out:

This chapter is ultimate proof that if oda wanted, he would absolutely let them show strength like imu did in just one chapter, and still let the SH escape (they obviously not gonna die here)
Conclusion:
Pissjuro and co are really that incompetent and weak


Any "but narrative" cope goes into the dumpster
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By the way to all the gorosei stans out there who also debated and coped their ass out:

This chapter is ultimate proof that if oda wanted, he would absolutely let them show strength like imu did in just one chapter, and still let the SH escape (they obviously not gonna die here)
Conclusion:
Pissjuro and co are really that incompetent and weak


Any "but narrative" cope goes into the dumpster
Well, the SHP ultimately ran away. You don't think they couldn't basically just mid diff the wings?

Though, really it just goes into the difference between being a Luffy opponent, and not being one, like the Bozosei
 
and Loki is the war god

Imu already hype tooled the oldgen and the wings
This is not about hype tool, but build up overall. SH will be defeated by the Final Villain of the series. Final Saga was nothing else but build up for IMU:
1. Started with Lulusia Kingdom
2. Revelation of Imu's name and Gorosei forms;
3. HK and IMU himself showing off
4.???
5. Final Fight against IMU
 
Well, the SHP ultimately ran away. You don't think they couldn't basically just mid diff the wings?

Though, really it just goes into the difference between being a Luffy opponent, and not being one, like the Bozosei
Oda was letting sanji doing tricks on supreme grade blade and let luffy team rocket one to the sun

It doesnt matter if they are ultimative stronger than the SHs at that point, that i agree with, what im saying they are not way stronger as they dont have the potrayal for that
 
I feel like people severely overestimate how much Oda actually wanks Zoro’s strength

While you could tell after the timeskip Oda was definitely alot more protective of Zoro to always make him look as badass as possible he was still comparable to Sanji lol
Man went out of his way to remind us that the monster trio was the same as ever
The timeskip ended with the monster trio and it began with them too
Oda went out of his way to highlight the trio not only power houses of the crew


But also protectors of the crew



People love to pretend that returning to Sabaody all the way till wano that the dynamic disappeared but oda couldn’t make it mare obvious that that wasn’t the case

Hell the first characters oda has luffy interact with is fake zoro and sanji

That being right before fighting alongside the real ones


He again highlights them going down to fishman island against the kraken

Highlighted during the end of fmi
Zoro Sanji reactions being highlighted

Them making a path for Luffy

Going to save Shirahoshi

Getting the treasure and dealing with pekoms and tamango


Also not really a moment tbf but it’s not a coincidence that they are the only ones to train their haki during the timeskip


The same connection they always had being put on an even higher pedestal with whole wings of the pirate king


Just because the trio was split up from basically a quarter of dressrosa all the way till wano never ment the dynamic disappeared


It’s the same thing as it’s always been all the way back to the east blue











As time goes on he just makes it more and more in your face obvious to people who still don’t understand after almost 30 years of it always being obvious


People forget that pre Wano pica was Zoro’s only real fight post timeskip and that shit was barely a fight with Pica being busy with other bullshit
People deadass used to believe that after pica Zoro was going to cut the birdcage and defeat Doflamingo while g4 ran out.
This is also back when Zoro just being able to use hardening for a few attacks was impressive all the while Luffy was spamming that shit
:sanmoji:


People love to mention roofpiece but prior to that Zoro was getting bitched by apoo in a 2v1, was bitched by kyoshiro, and was comparable to Killer while both were nerfed

Even the rooftop shit was lowkey ass because Zoro Kaido and even Linlin couldn’t stop jacking off a sword. Kaido deadass wanked oden and enma more than Zoro. I’d unironically argue rooftop Zoro while more “badass” is worse than Sanji’s cake piece. At least it was Sanji himself that was being respected and nlt



Now it’s just back to normal
 
Oda was letting sanji doing tricks on supreme grade blade and let luffy team rocket one to the sun

It doesnt matter if they are ultimative stronger than the SHs at that point, that i agree with, what im saying they are not way stronger as they dont have the potrayal for that
Luffy is the exception though, he's a Yonko slayer. But portrayal wise, even the presence of Gorosei was making Jinbei twerk, the same Jinbei who isn't *that* much weaker than current Sanji
 
Loki vs imu


i been waiting for this for some time

I think oda will actually portray Loki in a great manner here

We’ve all discussed how Loki will avenge his father and rocks when he meets imu and here it is.

This is the fruit rocks needed in action weilded by a perfect representation
BTW Ragnirs ice was already broken and Gunko is free
:josad::BigW:
 
Luffy is the exception though, he's a Yonko slayer. But portrayal wise, even the presence of Gorosei was making Jinbei twerk, the same Jinbei who isn't *that* much weaker than current Sanji
Even if you want make exception for Luffy i aint oda drawing sanji stopping imus spear or getting them violated by giant children despite him having regen like the gorosei and probally better too

Stop the cope bro they are mid
 
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