Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1181: A GOD AND A DEVIL

[Sheer D. Lusion]

why the sky is not splitting ?

 

[sanjikun]

Author at the time clearly didn’t realize the story would go on this long . Why discard elements like this

I don't. The thing is "Warlords" or "Yonkos" or "Admirals" have a certain standing, regardless of how/when they lose. Gorosei recognized this since Alabasta, when they said replacing Croc is more important than dealing with Shanks/WB.

And Oda has planned the 4 Emperors since the start of OP. There are certain "fixed" bars of power that you can't just brush away as powercreep/inflation or whatever. They are staples of the story.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

The only thing that was culled was the piece of charcoal that wasn't mentioned in the spoilers for obvious reasons, gotta help the baldies survive another day.
Imu's black blade is a copy of Yoru, made with the strongest ability seen so far. The best Mihawk chapter yet.

🤡

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy was immune to Enel otherwise he'd have been fodderized just like the rest of them. It was a unique situation.

The crew is a let down though. And their fails won't stop here. In the final war the Grand Fleet is going to upstage/save them with their "Big Event" too.
Loki's literally become more relevant than all of them combined, being involved with Imu, Shamrock, Mosa(Shirahoshi), Galleila Giants, has God fruit, and speculated to destroy Red Line too.

Same situation applies here
Luffy is also immune to his dormi reverse and so is Loki and that is totally fine.

in wano the two captains were more pivotal than most of his crew was etc I don’t see the issue here.

 

[Shikoku]

The endgame power levels were fixed since the start. That doesn't exist in other manga.

Insane levels of reaching. You mean the same start that had the 7S as main enemies, or the ridiculous low 30M bounties…

Im not gonna argue with you about OP having power inflation or not, it’s ridiculously clear to anyone …

 

[ZenZu]

Starts with Sanji and ends with kun

Starts with brain ends with damage

 

[kekaro]

arent ya scared of science shenanigans for Sanji? Weird choice to hand him to Lilith out of all the people around

Huge L incoming if instead of CoC he gets another science upgrade, basically Franky 2.0 if that happens.

Nah 0 hesitation
Bro ran at Imu at the instant when she showed up with 0 hesitation in a ring of fire that was apparently really dangerous:

Meanwhile the actual citizen of hell, conqueror:

+ The guy who is supposed to more worthy of it:

We move like this:

 

[Hedfi]

It's just like I thought, "Nemesis" is just the name of Imu's special move, not a sword name like Enma or Yoru.

 

[kekaro]

Who is saying that Imu or Loki?

Loki...
to sanji, obviously!

 

[Kumathegoat]

Mihawk > Imu

Imu is a swordsman

 

[ZenZu]

@Veku
Oda finally cooked with proper fight panels. The way both of them were moving was beautiful. The way Imu pulled out Nemesis was tuff af.

And Imu is doing all this while spitting philosophy.

 

[soupongo]

I don’t understand why you, @sanjikun , are taking all the heat… this Loki glaze will just wash away when Oda does his usual power inflation bullcrap 2 additional arcs down the road.

He's saying it'll happen in 2 chapters though, which is the issue

 

[BattalGazi]

Loki...
to sanji, obviously!

Sanji is durable to fire so its obvious he didn't take as much as damage as Zoro, he also have exoskeleton. Now that i think about it maybe Sanji really don't have CoC But demon lords haki Maki kinda like Imu. With the new raid suit upgrade he will definitely go to help Loki.

 

[Juanpiz]

@Veku
Oda finally cooked with proper fight panels. The way both of them were moving was beautiful. The way Imu pulled out Nemesis was tuff af.

Wait Till eye popping Luffy destroys it

 

[WaidoWSC]

@Veku
Oda finally cooked with proper fight panels. The way both of them were moving was beautiful. The way Imu pulled out Nemesis was tuff af.

Yes it was more than clashpiece, it was well choreographed

 

[MegaSpider]

Same situation applies here
Luffy is also immune to his dormi reverse and so is Loki and that is totally fine.

in wano the two captains were more pivotal than most of his crew was etc I don’t see the issue here.

Imu didn't domi reverse the strawhats...
He just one-shot them like they were nothing.

At some point, when the main cast become too weak and insignificant compared to the main character, then they just don't really matter. Oda's really gonna have to force it to have Sommers and Killingham be a threat again after their portrayal, especially relative to Imu. Like these 2 are at best the wings of Imu's underlings, the Gorosei.
Can't see Sanji and Zoro leave this arc proud of beating those 2 after their big fail here. Even worse for the rest of the crew who just run around and get captured.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

🤡

Ready CoA demon Akainu vs mentally nerfed Sabo?

 

[Hedfi]

It's high time that Vegapunk/Lilith takes a look at Sanji's lineage factor. I hope we get an explanation to what's happening with Sanji pertaining to his flipping eyebrows, Judge's modifications and his Fire manipulation.

 

[Raiden7]

@Loki D. Terror @Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel
REAL????

 

[kekaro]

Bro i just realized the sword fandom just packed their bags and left for this chapter they arent even trying thread is devoid
maybe @Shikoku is right