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Nah I can understand in case of Kaido. Its still bad writing but there is still room for debate but when it comes to directly giving titles like in case of WB , there is nothing which states not to believe in them.

The thing is oda lives in current hype and then moves on. Sure there can be on exception in someone like imu but now oda has introduced another god tier in loki and we may get more new characters revealed to be much above WB/Kaido.
Oda had GV to recitify Runbeards title, instead he portrayed him running away with kekdo and big mom

Its just a part of the fandom, i wonder who, in One Piece specifically, is trying to claim importance to titles which oda himself does not give 1 fuck about.


You guys are doing the equivalent of arguing gojo is the strongest after Modulo because Yuji never got some le titlebox like him.

Like i said give it 10 more years and you guys will be set free
 
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Oda had GV to recitify Runbeards title, instead he portrayed him running away with kekdo and big mom

Its just a part of the fandom, i wonder who, in One Piece specifically, is trying to claim importance to titles which oda himself does not give 1 fuck about.


You guys are doing the equivalent of arguing gojo is the strongest in After Modulo because Yuji never got some le titlebox like him.

Like i said give it 10 more years and you guys will be set free
Go anywhere and search for polls. Most of the fanbase had WB as WSM in pre skip. Let it be youtube , twitter or other forums.
 
Go anywhere and search for polls. Most of the fanbase had WB as WSM in pre skip. Let it be youtube , twitter or other forums.
Yes and pre skip was 16 years ago, we are in the moment. WB seemed the strongest at the time because of his perfomance in MF, not because of his fucking title lmao
Do you think if Whitebeard performed like mihawk he would be voted like that because of his title? Go and look at those poll pre skip and tell me how that turned out

This is like saying to me that most of the fanbase thought cp9 was the strongest cp org until oda invented ANOTHER MORE SECRET STRONGER Cp unit in Cp0 out of his ass, which is a way more egregious, clearly not planned invention than any other shit title he gives less a fuck about

Its absolute delusion to say that hype shit matters. Like i said smells like never reading any other manga or giga agenda cope
 
Yes and pre skip was 16 years ago, we are in the moment. WB seemed the strongest at the time because of his perfomance in MF, not because of his fucking title lmao
Do you think if Whitebeard performed like mihawk he would be voted like that because of his title? Go and look at those poll pre skip and tell me how that turned out

This is like saying to me that most of the fanbase thought cp9 was the strongest cp org until oda invented ANOTHER MORE SECRET STRONGER Cp unit in Cp0 out of his ass, which is a way more egregious, clearly not planned invention than any other shit title he gives less a fuck about

Its absolute delusion to say that hype shit matters. Like i said smells like never reading any other manga or giga agenda cope
I mean that is the point. WB's performance despite being sick was very good for that time. So no one doubted his title back then. Up until it was retconned which is my point.
 
I think the big misunderstanding with titles is that a lot of fans see them as literal words of god when it's clear to me it's just the general perception people within the verse have of a character, which is a different thing.
Oda actually justified wihy Xebec/Imu/Loki/Harald are not as acknowledged by the common people as long you pay attention to the story
1)WG actively suppressed Xebec existence
2)Harald was specifically stated to have stayed hidden in the mist while doing the WG dirty work
3)Loki pulled a reverse Harald, only aiming at WG assets while staying hidden (Imu didnt even realize he was Nidhogg til 15 minutes ago)
4)Imu is self-explanatory
 
I mean that is the point. WB's performance despite being sick was very good for that time. So no one doubted his title back then. Up until it was retconned which is my point.
So what you mean is the title didnt matter and what was shown mattered, thank you, there is nothing more to add to that
Also, you are litterarly contradict yourself, kekhawks title was in doubt exactly at the same time, so no, it has nothing to do with the title. There is no magic retcon point of One Piece where title were relevant and then not.

Like i said, you can go ahead and show us those polls you claim to show me if I'm wrong
 
I think the big misunderstanding with titles is that a lot of fans see them as literal words of god when it's clear to me it's just the general perception people within the verse have of a character, which is a different thing.
Oda actually justified wihy Xebec/Imu/Loki/Harald are not as acknowledged by the common people as long you pay attention to the story
1)WG actively suppressed Xebec existence
2)Harald was specifically stated to have stayed hidden in the mist while doing the WG dirty work
3)Loki pulled a reverse Harald, only aiming at WG assets while staying hidden (Imu didnt even realize he was Nidhogg til 15 minutes ago)
4)Imu is self-explanatory
Double shoutout to people who don't understand this despite having the literal longest flashback in one piece but not 1 title man in the entire flashback of old gen and rocks era btw.


I wonder why that could be....
Could it because oda showed everyone performing, didnt need some hype for characters he was didnt want to use yet and produce cheap hype :DeepThink:

No the magical title threshold was not reached, surely :shocked:
 
His peak was clashing with aids roger, never defeating a name-worth opponent in his life besides Crocodile

I swear you guys dont read other manga or stories

"Perfect cell was stated to be the ultimate peak of existence in and out universe, how can you surpass that?"
:shocked:
WB was flat out stated be the strongest by the narrator not himself and prevented all other major players from becoming the pirate king.

Making the false equivalence with cell is pointless when all we have is cell boasting about himself.
 
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