Powers & Abilities Imu in Elbaf is impressive but not enough impressive

[soupongo]

Roger was literally dying during their last mission lmao, don't spread that nonsense of "quit".

Also all other pirates were after Pirate King as well, it wasn't just government they were going to fight, they have to fight basically everyone at that point after being Pirate King.

That's also why Oda put Imu in a smaller panel than the Emperors:

Even if we exclude Roger for being sick(though he doesn´t even turn himself in for a year after he finds laughtale...iirc?)
You have Rayleigh, Gaban and Oden all in one crew, and its not a crazy reach to say that others like Whitebeard, and Shiki would have allied with them. There clearly has to be some hax involved in preventing Imu from dying. Similar to how Rocks knew he couldnt do anything to Imu when he was face to face with him.

Tbh idk why this is a debate, Imu/Joyboy being>Yonko is pretty obvious. Joyboy is like Luffys final parallel or whatever.

 

[Erkan12]

Even if we exclude Roger for being sick(though he doesn´t even turn himself in for a year after he finds laughtale...iirc?)
You have Rayleigh, Gaban and Oden all in one crew, and its not a crazy reach to say that others like Whitebeard, and Shiki would have allied with them. There clearly has to be some hax involved in preventing Imu from dying. Similar to how Rocks knew he couldnt do anything to Imu when he was face to face with him.

Tbh idk why this is a debate, Imu/Joyboy being>Yonko is pretty obvious. Joyboy is like Luffys final parallel or whatever.

I said every other pirate were after the pirate king crew already, it's not about fighting the government only. The pirates cares about treasure, why would they go after the government when they can take the One Piece from Rayleigh and Gaban? So as I said, they must defeat the Government before finding One Piece, otherwise it's more difficult.

As Shiryu said, the Government probably has one of the Road Ponegliffs so they have to defeat the Government to find the One Piece.

 

[soupongo]

I said every other pirate were after the pirate king crew already, it's not about fighting the government only. The pirates cares about treasure, why would they go after the government when they can take the One Piece from Rayleigh and Gaban? So as I said, they must defeat the Government before finding One Piece, otherwise it's more difficult.

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What do you think they were too early for? The most obvious conclusion is they were too early to use the OP to take out Imu and prevent him from sinking the world.

why would they go after the government when they can take the One Piece from Rayleigh and Gaban? So as I said, they must defeat the Government before finding One Piece, otherwise it's more difficult.

As Shiryu said, the Government probably has one of the Road Ponegliffs so they have to defeat the Government to find the One Piece.

The government is planning to sink the entire world, I imagine that would unite the pirates of the world bro..

Just use common sense. To beat Imu, you need the Nidhogg fruit, the one Luffy has, and probably the Yami no mi. It´s pretty much what all the flashbacks have been implying

 

[Erkan12]

What do you think they were too early for? The most obvious conclusion is they were too early to use the OP to take out Imu and prevent him from sinking the world.


The government is planning to sink the entire world, I imagine that would unite the pirates of the world bro..

Just use common sense. To beat Imu, you need the Nidhogg fruit, the one Luffy has, and probably the Yami no mi. It´s pretty much what all the flashbacks have been implying

I am talking about something else, and you talk about something else lmao.

I said if they find One Piece treasure before the government falls, then every pirate will target the SH Pirates.

Which is a better condition to fight the Government? When they can make alliances with other pirates against the Government or when they find the One Piece treasure and in that condition they have to fight every other pirate and the government at the same time?

Also why you are so certain that the Government don't have that one of the Road Ponegliffs? Shiryu said the government might have.

 

[soupongo]

I am talking about something else, and you talk about something else lmao.

I said if they find One Piece treasure before the government falls, then every pirate will target the SH Pirates.

Which is a better condition to fight the Government? When they can make alliances with other pirates against the Government or when they find the One Piece treasure and in that condition they have to fight every other pirate and the government at the same time?

Also why you are so certain that the Government don't have that one of the Road Ponegliffs? Shiryu said the government might have.

I´m talking about how the Roger Pirates knew they couldn´t beat Imu, it´s kind of the premise of the entire OP story at this point, post Nika retcon. Not sure how you got on anything else. This alone obviously certifies Imu as>>Yonko, and it´s been reiterated by:
Gaban
Luffy
Loki

in the past couple chapters

As for the RPs, I have no idea what you´re talking about. I would assume if the WG has gotten one, that would have happened after Roger died.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Kinyagi, the sad truth is the final villain is going to be mid in the same way, even if it isn´t Imu, as long as Oda is dumb about not killing anyone.

Oda gave Imcel more than most anyway. He literally possessed a character like Rocks and made him his minion. It´s pretty much the broken devil fruit we´ve ever seen. He also canonically has the best haki ever, we´ve had like three characters straight up say it

It's actually sad that Oda made Domi Reversi consequence free yet won't even have Imu turn Sanji or Zoro into his puppet for some extra tension.

 

[Erkan12]

I´m talking about how the Roger Pirates knew they couldn´t beat Imu, it´s kind of the premise of the entire OP story at this point, post Nika retcon. Not sure how you got on anything else. This alone obviously certifies Imu as>>Yonko, and it´s been reiterated by:
Gaban
Luffy
Loki

in the past couple chapters

As for the RPs, I have no idea what you´re talking about. I would assume if the WG has gotten one, that would have happened after Roger died.

I am talking about this:

 

[sanjikun]

1) He's just getting started

2) Obviously he's not as strong as some make him to be. Luffy's already 80-90% of his max EoS power.

 

[soupongo]

I am talking about this:

How does this follow from anything I´ve said though? Did you just want to talk about how the WG could have a poneglyph?

 

[Shiroyru]

1) He's just getting started

2) Obviously he's not as strong as some make him to be. Luffy's already 80-90% of his max EoS power.

“BM Naruto is already at 80-90% of his max EoS power”

You do know how Shonen battle manga work, right? Luffy isn’t gonna get some marginal powerup(s), his next powerup(s) are gonna be massive boosts

 

[soupongo]

It's actually sad that Oda made Domi Reversi consequence free yet won't even have Imu turn Sanji or Zoro into his puppet for some extra tension.

Yeah, though maybe we get something like that for the ending of the arc after Killingham and Super Sommers lose. Though probably not at this point.

DR has to be one of the worst plot points of all time

 

[soupongo]

2) Obviously he's not as strong as some make him to be. Luffy's already 80-90% of his max EoS power.

fair enough, this means that Luffy will never be stronger than Imu lmfao

 

[sanjikun]

“BM Naruto is already at 80-90% of his max EoS power”

You do know how Shonen battle manga work, right? Luffy isn’t gonna get some marginal powerup(s), his next powerup(s) are gonna be massive boosts

 

[Shiroyru]

Did Luffy use his FS to see the rest of the series?

 

[sanjikun]

Did Luffy use his FS to see the rest of the series?

No, Oda did.

 

[Shiroyru]

Yeah, though maybe we get something like that for the ending of the arc after Killingham and Super Super Sommers lose. Though probably not at this point.

DR has to be one of the worst plot points of all time

Forest God Chopper would just low diff DR Wings, so it wouldn’t really change much except padding out the arc

 

[Shiroyru]

No, Oda did.

Luffy isn’t the narrator…

 

[soupongo]

Forest God Chopper would just low diff DR Wings, so it wouldn’t really change much except padding out the arc

Depends, even if he literally has a one tap power against DR´s, it doesn´t mean he would be able to stop DR Sanji or Zoro. It shouldnt be hard for them to Ko Chopper in base....

Though I guess it would be kind of a forced plot point atp, sure

 

[Erkan12]

How does this follow from anything I´ve said though? Did you just want to talk about how the WG could have a poneglyph?

If the Government has Road Ponegliff, then you argue for nothing. The Government need to fall before finding One Piece if they have one.

And considering Imu is revealed too early, that also make sense.

Also make sense since Oda included the Government for the One Piece race:

 

[soupongo]

If the Government has Road Ponegliff, then you argue for nothing. The Government need to fall before finding One Piece if they have one.

And considering Imu is revealed too early, that also make sense.

Also make sense since Oda included the Government for the One Piece race:

I´m talking about Roger, not Luffy. Why would the government have a RP 25 years, ago when they were all banned and in obscurity after centuries? Why would it not come up in the Oden flashback?