Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1185 Spoilers Discussion
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It seems like after replacing his body and the end of part 1, Orochimaru regained the ability to move his arms again, but couldn’t use them to perform Jutsu? Not really sure why it works like that tbh, seems like some bs Kishimoto pulled just so that he could have 4T Naruto vs Orochimaru be an actual fight
SE Ulquiorra I can understand but R1?? Lmfao you play too much the Stark downplay is unreal 
The rankings exist for a reason. SE Ulquoirra > Harribel sure but I don't believe SE Ulquoirra massively stronger than her, certainly not than Starkk whose personality is his weakness like Fate Gil. He js got the better looking fight while she was nerfed in FKT and fighting a counter in Toshiro (yea he a jobber but still)
The rankings exist for a reason. SE Ulquoirra > Harribel sure but I don't believe SE Ulquoirra massively stronger than her, certainly not than Starkk whose personality is his weakness like Fate Gil. He js got the better looking fight while she was nerfed in FKT and fighting a counter in Toshiro (yea he a jobber but still)
@soupongo @TheAncientCenturion The power levels of the Bijuu seemed really inconsistent throughout Naruto tbh.
Sometimes it’s stated that number of tails directly corresponds to their power levels, but then it’s also stated by Gyuki that it doesn’t matter. The Akatsuki states that they have to capture the Hachibi and Kyuubi last because they’re the most powerful, yet they capture Kokuo and Chomei first instead of Shukaku, and then start going in order of tail number from then on.
In the War Arc, the 2 through 7 tails all have similar performances even though Chomei should be massively stronger than Matatabi if tail number mattered.
Sometimes it’s stated that number of tails directly corresponds to their power levels, but then it’s also stated by Gyuki that it doesn’t matter. The Akatsuki states that they have to capture the Hachibi and Kyuubi last because they’re the most powerful, yet they capture Kokuo and Chomei first instead of Shukaku, and then start going in order of tail number from then on.
In the War Arc, the 2 through 7 tails all have similar performances even though Chomei should be massively stronger than Matatabi if tail number mattered.
Obito stated that a Perfect Jinchuriki is much stronger than the Bijuu itself. My headcanon is that BM Naruto was so much stronger than the other Bijuu because his chakra control is much better. It was mentioned by Ebisu in the Chunin Exams that Naruto’s chakra control is 10x less efficient than Sasuke’s and Sakura’s, which makes him spend 10x as much chakra as them to perform the same Jutsu. It’s not like the Bijuu ever received Shinobi training, so it’s possible that all the Bijuu, including Kurama, really are relative in power, but BM Naruto just seems so much more powerful than them because his godly chakra control that he achieved in the war arc lets him achieve the same results as the other Bijuu at a fraction of the cost.
But then again, there are statements about Kurama being the strongest, though maybe you can just chalk those up to guys like Kisame just assuming tail number matters when it really doesn’t. I think Kishimoto just couldn’t make up his mind. He wanted Kurama to be special because of his connection to Nardo, but also wanted the Bijuu to all be relative because it narratively wouldn’t really make sense for Hagoromo to divide the Juubi’s chakra so unevenly between them
But then again, there are statements about Kurama being the strongest, though maybe you can just chalk those up to guys like Kisame just assuming tail number matters when it really doesn’t. I think Kishimoto just couldn’t make up his mind. He wanted Kurama to be special because of his connection to Nardo, but also wanted the Bijuu to all be relative because it narratively wouldn’t really make sense for Hagoromo to divide the Juubi’s chakra so unevenly between them
Fair, but tbh, this just seems like a rationalization. I don't think you can really argue that Kishi ever sees the other tailed beasts as close to Kurama. Can you really imagine Madara trying to use like the 4 tails to attack Konoha and fight Hashirama? It just isn't happening
Btw, what do people think of "tailed beast redemption"? Too corny, or does it fit the story? Most of all, I'm just salty Naruto's nine tails forms lose the red color and asthetic, which I thought was the coolest thing in the world as a kid lol
Btw, what do people think of "tailed beast redemption"? Too corny, or does it fit the story? Most of all, I'm just salty Naruto's nine tails forms lose the red color and asthetic, which I thought was the coolest thing in the world as a kid lol
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