Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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G5 coming out of nowhere as a god fruit, until who's who talking about it.
While I don't hate G5, I do however dislike the fact that Oda decided to retcon the rubber fruit into the Nika fruit, just because Oda realized that he couldn't do all the crazy toon stuff with the rubber fruit.

Some want to cope and say this was planned all along since the beginning but I highly doubt it.
 
Yeah, CoA that has the same visuals of the major CoC moves/clashes post Wano.

VC go for what they know from Oda. They didn't even confirm Zoro's CoC back then.
Zoro’s Conqueror’s Haki has been confirmed in dozens of panels. We have characters outright acknowledging it, King being one example, and clear visual panels of random fodder collapsing and foaming at the mouth, something Kuzan does not have.

As for Garp and Kuzan, Garp literally displayed his Conqueror’s Haki in the same arc where Kuzan fought him for the first time, yet Garp’s was confirmed while Kuzan’s wasn’t.

Kizaru had a full “fight” against Luffy and didn’t even produce a single streak of Armament Haki lightning, in an arc that was absolutely filled with Haki lightning everywhere. I’ve never seen it made as painfully obvious that Kizaru does not have Conqueror’s Haki as Egghead made it.

Green Bull in Wano: zero lightning, zero Conqueror’s Haki. Instead of displaying his own, he was busy praising other people’s Haki, namely Yamato’s and Shanks’. Not to mention that when he was put in a situation where he couldn’t freely use his Devil Fruit powers against the Revolutionaries, he once again DID NOT use Conqueror’s Haki. Neither he nor Fujitora did.
 
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Imo oda is milking it a little too much for my taste (same with Loki hybrid, he knows we all know he is not revealing on purpouse despite it not making sense right now)
> Back in Baratie, in his literal intro arc, we get the whole speech from zeff that Zoro has the same Spear as Luffy and Sanji has it too, but he keeps chewing at it
> We learn pre-ts its literal callled dispostion of the king (the one who explains is even the empress of Amazon Lily in Boa)
> Later we learn Sanji father is a king that made a name for himself conquering kingdoms
> We see Sanji is refusing to accept his legacy in WCI
> In Wano while reluctantly agreeing to use judges tech, he rejects his true disposition again after the mutations freaking him out, doing it his own way against Queen
> In Elbaf now Gaban looks at him, no fighting, no coc usage, and recognizes immediately he has the qualities of a king, and he should stop holding back, and we now get the literal confirmation

Like huh:choppawhat: That is legit like you said better built up than g5, Maybe bro is baiting :AlexChills:
This doesn't make it any better. since g5 is legit story ruining shit, obviously whatever powerup Sanji gets that is still somewhat logical isn't going to be as bad.

There's pretty much no reason for Oda to wait 1200 chapters to reveal Sanji has it...Why is Gaban the first to notice it anyway lmfao?

Like Luffy's COC, we should have gotten a glimpse 10-15 years ago
 
There is no need to defend sommer, the real deal is Super Sommer.


Omen seem to the Nine tails chakra cloack level making anyone who get it Quasi Top tier.


Zoro fans only need to focus on Super Sommer.
It doesn't matter it's all the same character. Naruto has won like three fights without the nine tails generally, it doesn't take away from him winning them
 
While I don't hate G5, I do however dislike the fact that Oda decided to retcon the rubber fruit into the Nika fruit, just because Oda realized that he couldn't do all the crazy toon stuff with the rubber fruit.

Some want to cope and say this was planned all along since the beginning but I highly doubt it.
If he planned it to be like this, its worse imo.

Like legit if One Piece are being managed by Competent Art Editor, He / She would reject Oda's sudden idea to retconned it.
I kinda agree the the famous legend editor of DB if i recall, that current OP is "worse" Because the Editor let Oda do whatever he wants.
 
One piece kind of become boring with sanji fans constantly dragginf zoro down and luffy fans fueling in chaos with loki and other front to trouble zoro fans but now that Sanji have joined the chat I can feel rasured they wont blindly teamup with luffy fans anymore especially with them dreaming about soloing crew.


The stupid deadlock is over....

Admiral fans are the one I am laughing at so much for gatekeeping zoro from the admural level now they find themself with another nightmare in Mr Prince Sanji by the end of Elbaf..
 
It’s really funny after Sanji confirmed to have CoC then suddenly all the Admirals will automatically have it too despite the manga showing zero evidence
Wtf are you talking about? As far as I can tell, before Sanji's CoC confirmation this chapter, most Admiral fans have always said that the Admirals would have CoC.

Don Chinjao, Yamato, Zoro, Sanji, and even fucking Kid all have CoC, but for some reason Admirals won't?

So yeah they do have it, it's only a matter of time until we fully see it.
 
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