Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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There's been some good parts, but Oda has ultimately doubled down on Nika worship to a comical degree

All the other SHP and their dreams are basically irrelevant to the broader plot of Soyboy returning through Luffy, and they'll probably never be able to do anything to Imcel, like even push him to low diff.
Again, i dont really agree, Loki got way more screen time and shine i expected. For example, even now he is not defeated which is very unusual if you compare it to other arc heroes. Even people like Wyper got k.oed before luffy took over
 
I hope Oda makes the most of the Sommers fight. I know many don't care for it and Sommers is definitely not the hyped up enemy Zoro often faces, but he has regen and he has a good fruit. I've been saying he should get an awakening to give Zoro something to want to overcome.

As for Sanji. It's gonna be good. Looking back, Baratie did indeed offer a lot of suggestions that Sanji had a strong will but was stifling it for Zeff's sake hence his encounters with Luffy and Zoro kinda left him reflecting a lot on their ambitions. Not a shock that he'll be the third Straw Hat to display CoC. Soon. As for the rest of the fight, I hope it's intense. Post-CoC will be interesting cause perhaps Future Sight can be worked towards in his next major fight.
 
Again, i dont really agree, Loki got way more screen time and shine i expected. For example, even now he is not defeated which is very unusual if you compare it to other arc heroes. Even people like Wyper got k.oed before luffy took over
Loki is for now, a good counter example, I agree.( i think he's done next chapter tho...)

I don't really think any of the SHP will reach Loki level though, same for the Supernova, when the strongest of them is getting low diffed by Shanks
 
I don't really think any of the SHP will reach Loki level though, same for the Supernova, when the strongest of them is getting low diffed by Shanks
I mean, if you believe that it is what it is, but that's a whole different conversation and has nothing to do with Elbaf being currently written badly or something, or no one but Luffy mattering in this arc
If anything, the opposite is true this is one of the rare arcs where the henchmen operate independently and execute the real plan so its not about just luffy punching out the big bad guy
 
By the way, the people who defeated sommer so far....


Rayleigh
Gaban
Luffy (Loki dont count since Sommer was already defeated by lufffy and lokis attack did nothing else.


Every time Sommer didnt have any last damage on him despide that all the above are top tiers with highest level of asvcoc mastery.


And the sommer Zoro is going to fight will be harder to defeat since he got Omen boost.

When you acount in that Killingam had gone from being defeated and mocked by Sanji to about to force sanji to use advcoc the boost sommer received will be even higher.

We are definitely about to witness a great fight expecialy in Elbaf where there is a large three sommer can use to further enhance his ability.

Zoro will show dc that will surpass Dressorora.


This might be zoros first Paramecia Awakening fight.

King of hell-3 thousands worl soon.??
Sommers has the history of the OldLegends, he really should be on that Current Rayleigh , Gaban, Garp tier. I’m sure Oda will flex Sommers Abilities in the Zoro fight. Zoro has to perform tho. This can’t be another Zoro Vs Lucci quality fight.
 
"Somebody with the qualities of a conqueror" but hasn't unlocked it yet

Trafalgar D Water Law fits this bill the best after Sanjino. Country lvl sword ultimate fruit former warlord captain supernova trio D clan; puts the gears of the new world into motion

anybody who says otherwise is simply in complete denial at this point like they were with the cook @park_min young @Roo @Loki D. Terror @Welkin @Heart pirate
Oda should bring back Doffy as a HK to show off Law’s CoC
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
I hope Oda makes the most of the Sommers fight. I know many don't care for it and Sommers is definitely not the hyped up enemy Zoro often faces, but he has regen and he has a good fruit. I've been saying he should get an awakening to give Zoro something to want to overcome.

As for Sanji. It's gonna be good. Looking back, Baratie did indeed offer a lot of suggestions that Sanji had a strong will but was stifling it for Zeff's sake hence his encounters with Luffy and Zoro kinda left him reflecting a lot on their ambitions. Not a shock that he'll be the third Straw Hat to display CoC. Soon. As for the rest of the fight, I hope it's intense. Post-CoC will be interesting cause perhaps Future Sight can be worked towards in his next major fight.
Sommers is goated and he's guaranteed to deliver something entertaining since he's a zoro fight. All is well.
 
Sommers has the history of the OldLegends, he really should be on that Current Rayleigh , Gaban, Garp tier. I’m sure Oda will flex Sommers Abilities in the Zoro fight. Zoro has to perform tho. This can’t be another Zoro Vs Lucci quality fight.
Super Sommers could reasonably be close to Old Ray/Gaban level.

He genuinely looks like he low diffs any YC1 at this point. Most of them can’t even damage him as they don’t have ACoC, and Omen strength + his DF should let him overpower the YC1s as well.
 
Sommers is goated and he's guaranteed to deliver something entertaining since he's a zoro fight. All is well.
Sommers is the type of antagonist that are a joke but incredibly strong tbh.
Yea he lose to the guys lile Ray, Gyaban, and Luffy. But they are top dogs and he still cameback strong, especially after getting bonked to pieces by Luffy AdvCoC lol.
He just annoying.
My Zorobros might hated this fight cuz it might didn't improve Zoro's power, but I'm chilling on this.
 
Sommers is the type of antagonist that are a joke but incredibly strong tbh.
Yea he lose to the guys lile Ray, Gyaban, and Luffy. But they are top dogs and he still cameback strong, especially after getting bonked to pieces by Luffy AdvCoC lol.
He just annoying.
My Zorobros might hated this fight cuz it might didn't improve Zoro's power, but I'm chilling on this.
I think the upset is more that the only quality Sommers is getting hyped (so far, obviously; he obviously got super strength for example by seeing how easly he lifting the ship and probally got other stuff too), even by you, is his regen
That's a stock ability of the contract, not sommers, so its not really relevant as long as you fight a HK be it gunko killingham or sommers
 
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