Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion
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It's part of a grouping that isn't particularly good for Zoro fans. As opposed to the role of a Vegeta,Sasuke, Killiua or Hiei, as the main player that's no less than his captain in importance to the story, he's being grouped with a cook who doesn't train. That's why you have Imu hyping Luffy up as the new Joyboy, while Zoro and Sanji fight actual jobbers together. This obviously has implications on Zoro's overall power level if we were being honest.
Logically this is a good point, but the likelihood that Sanji won't use ACOC this is like 0
So are you of the belief that this is particularly good writing or something?
Logically this is a good point, but the likelihood that Sanji won't use ACOC this is like 0
"Oda---oda is le bad writer cause sanji coc weeeh"
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Cant wait for Haki Genius Sanji essays when he unlocks and master acoc without 1 bit of training or magic sword in the same fight and not being a collosal mong not even knowing what it is and not able to use it consciously
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Absolute zoroach eridaction
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Cant wait for Haki Genius Sanji essays when he unlocks and master acoc without 1 bit of training or magic sword in the same fight and not being a collosal mong not even knowing what it is and not able to use it consciously
Just nattyAbsolute zoroach eridaction
Oda gives two feats to Sanji and people start pretending it hurts Zoro agenda lmao.
Absolute sensational masterclass when he finaly release his full conqueror haki.
Sommer might even have a special contingency decice that he might use to against zoro (sommer doesnt fight fairly which is telling everyone zoro fought so far have a certain honor)
I dont count Luffy in this since he is just god reborn. If we leave plot aside Zoro can beat him 5 out of 10, his stamina with g5 is that horrible.
Also when imu beat luffy in g5 most people who laughed at zoro will let it go, loki already got humbled and is about to receive his power up.
@Lance_Dragonite said Sanji used Future Sight!!! 
I actually need to check the spoiler thread for this chapter to see what kind of dumb shit it was said, gonna be some nuclear braniac takes again like the kizaru feeding stuff i can tell 😭
Absolutely, this his way better build up than the dogshit bananza that was zoros reveal this is probally one of the better reveals with more build up in the manga even a hardcore zorofan like @GrandmasterChef Zonji agreed with me on that
Power of love was never a thing. You are just going for your headcanon saying Sanji should have gone with full "science power" which is clearly wrong. On Wano he himself talked about how he trained more his armament haki to get hotter flames.
The fact that he used the Raid Suit three times does not mean anything. That thing was destroyed by Sanji himself. You're going headcanon with what Sanji should have and you are blindly denying what Gyaban will say in this chapter. Gyaban a legend of Roger Pirates, left wing of Gol D. Roger said Sanji have the qualities of a King and still we are denying a clear sentence. What Oda should do to make you understand, to penetrate that hard skull of yours
The fact that he used the Raid Suit three times does not mean anything. That thing was destroyed by Sanji himself. You're going headcanon with what Sanji should have and you are blindly denying what Gyaban will say in this chapter. Gyaban a legend of Roger Pirates, left wing of Gol D. Roger said Sanji have the qualities of a King and still we are denying a clear sentence. What Oda should do to make you understand, to penetrate that hard skull of yours
Still gonna bet my money on Power of love or flame shi.
Conqueror just doesn't suit him. Call it bias or whatever.
Naah he would deny with anything I claim. Bro been a stalker since day 1.
If only grouping meant equal.
You tell me how and why Sanji and Zoro are even equal?
Do you see Egghead Sanji to do anything to Kaidou realistically? Which was used beat a YC2? Meamwhile Zoro CoA was enough to deal damage.
There are levels to it.
Looking at feats and still relying on portrayal is delusion.
Conqueror just doesn't suit him. Call it bias or whatever.
Naah he would deny with anything I claim. Bro been a stalker since day 1.
If only grouping meant equal.
You tell me how and why Sanji and Zoro are even equal?
Do you see Egghead Sanji to do anything to Kaidou realistically? Which was used beat a YC2? Meamwhile Zoro CoA was enough to deal damage.
There are levels to it.
Looking at feats and still relying on portrayal is delusion.
@Lance_Dragonite said Sanji used Future Sight!!!
So if Stronger flames lead to stronger haki what was the fuckin point of Exoskeleton and speed?
Think yourself what you just said.
Zoro was given enma to hone his haki,
Sanji was gicen raid suit to unlock his germa genes.
Yea tell me what qualities did he see in Sanji in 5 minutes of desperately begging for Conqueror?
Because Gaban clearly saw Zoro fight and also complimented him as good crewmate as well.
Think yourself what you just said.
Zoro was given enma to hone his haki,
Sanji was gicen raid suit to unlock his germa genes.
Yea tell me what qualities did he see in Sanji in 5 minutes of desperately begging for Conqueror?
Because Gaban clearly saw Zoro fight and also complimented him as good crewmate as well.
>Gets told he reads the manga wrong and sanji especially said he rejects the path germa walks
>Keeps yelling into the void he gonna get science upgrades and cant read a preschooler manga
>Manga proves he is wrong
>"Oda retcon"
This is the strongest warrior of the temple btw. its all downhill from there
>Keeps yelling into the void he gonna get science upgrades and cant read a preschooler manga
>Manga proves he is wrong
>"Oda retcon"
This is the strongest warrior of the temple btw. its all downhill from there
Bro literally doesn't have the guts to qoute me lmao.
Sanji rejected germa and emotional freaks his siblings are not his power ups lmao.
He still uses Exoskeleton and speed which came with it lmao.
Bro can't give me a single haki upgrade sanji has got since post time skip and has the nerve to tell me oda didn't retcon it lmao.
Sanji rejected germa and emotional freaks his siblings are not his power ups lmao.
He still uses Exoskeleton and speed which came with it lmao.
Bro can't give me a single haki upgrade sanji has got since post time skip and has the nerve to tell me oda didn't retcon it lmao.
Admiral still strugling to downscale Zoro now they will have to deal with Germa King Sanji right after elbaf.
They just keep getting headaches....
When the agenda you painfully forged is about to be ruined by Sanji. While some Zoro fans were wrong about him not getting Coc, this also has his advantage which is that thing is about to heat up for admirals bro, the Prince has joined the chat.
He basically killed your Shiryu wont even be admiral level nonsense talk since he himself will fight admiral level minimum.
They just keep getting headaches....
When the agenda you painfully forged is about to be ruined by Sanji. While some Zoro fans were wrong about him not getting Coc, this also has his advantage which is that thing is about to heat up for admirals bro, the Prince has joined the chat.
He basically killed your Shiryu wont even be admiral level nonsense talk since he himself will fight admiral level minimum.
"ACoC" is not a thing in the manga. It's a made up fan term. There is just CoC.
CoC has 2 canon applications so far and 1 non-canon:
- Fodder Control
- Coating
- Observation Killing (non-canon so far)
Yamato and Sanji clearly don't have ACoA, which is what Luffy called "advanced". That's why people are conflating it.
Luffy, Zoro, Sanji all needed 0 training for "ACoC". For Luffy it was just the realization that he could do it.
CoC has 2 canon applications so far and 1 non-canon:
- Fodder Control
- Coating
- Observation Killing (non-canon so far)
Yamato and Sanji clearly don't have ACoA, which is what Luffy called "advanced". That's why people are conflating it.
Luffy, Zoro, Sanji all needed 0 training for "ACoC". For Luffy it was just the realization that he could do it.
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