Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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Surely you’ve got to be joking; Sanji is on panel telling people to abandon their dreams lmfaoo, he gave up again on WCI.

Are you seriously claiming that leading the Curly Hats ie the weakest members of his own pirate crew qualifies Sanji as a conqueror? 😂 Cmon bro.

Every Strawhat offers their life for Luffy, are they all conquerors?

These are weak reasons. Law’s case for conqueror based on personality and disposition is clearly amongst the strongest of new gen pirates. He refuses to submit to others and has never abandoned any ambition of his ever. He pursued Doflamingo until the ends of the earth and now he pursues answers to the will of D. Sanji has abandoned his dreams multiple times.

That alone makes Law’s case much greater, aside from being literally stated to be a leader of the next generation. Sanji getting CoC is completely fine, I’d only have an issue with it if he gets it and someone like Law doesn’t as that’s when we’re entering asspull territory.
Law has a strong case for CoC. The problem is the double standard you are using to make his confirmation mandatory after Sanji’s.

The Baratie panel is Sanji reacting to Zoro choosing death over retreat from Mihawk. That arc also includes Sanji willing to die for Zeff… your opinion is superficial here. On WCI, Zeff was held hostage, Sanji believed his hands would be destroyed, his crew was threatened, and Chapter 856 has him explicitly admit that he wants to return. You prolly classify those sacrifices as “abandoning ambition.”
Meanwhile, Zoro offering Kuma the life attached to his swordsman dream and Law accepting death as long as Doflamingo ultimately falls count as evidence of exceptional resolve. 2 sets of standards again.

I also never claimed that leading the Curly Hats or offering his life independently guarantees CoC. They were parts of a broader comparison involving leadership, courage, will and personal conviction.

Asking whether every Straw Hat therefore has CoC replaces my cumulative argument with one I never made.

The manga has never established “never sacrificing or setting aside your personal dream” as the criterion. You seem to imply this constantly. Pedro captained his own crew, pursued the Poneglyphs and the Dawn, and died for that purpose without confirmed CoC. Persistence to one goal alone proves nothing.

And assuming your “leader of the next generation” statement refers to Chapter 1000, that passage is framed over Luffy, Zoro, Law, Kid and Killer together. Killer voids your narrative here.

Law may eventually receive CoC, and his independent case is strong. Sanji receiving it creates no obligation for Law. Your conclusion depends on counting Law’s sacrifices as resolve, Sanji’s sacrifices as surrender, and then treating Sanji as the minimum threshold Law must automatically exceed…

Essentially, you are just biased as they come.
 
Notice grown ass man started smiley spamming and talking about trolling as soon as he was exposed, and his mental partner in this is crux, the guy publicy not known to read
noticing
Notice bro still won’t answer my question

Let’s play a game called ‘don’t talk about or quote Heroes until you answer his question’
 
Notice bro still won’t answer my question

Let’s play a game called ‘don’t talk about or quote Heroes until you answer his question’
You mean you not answering the question i asked first, than refused to answer, than said you wanna bet on account deletion after the manga ends and then refusing to take a mattering timeframe and now not answering the question i asked first?:

Yeah you checkmated me again!!!

I guess we will never now what the troll was, pitty
 
Wait lol correct me if i am wrong ace was 10 in grey terminal. Able to exert his will of his own choice etc. BB was 2 in god valley was he not? Why are u expecting a toddler to show coc :choppawhat:. Also "And we can tell that his physicals have more or less peaked because whenever people in verse mention his growth it’s his devil fruits that are getting stronger never his haki". Okay true people in the verse talk about his df powers but us as the reader we can also see shanks words as true and they still hold true even today BB Haki/Ambition has not slowed down he is still aiming for higher goals lol just because he has 2 powerful df and maybe even a potential 3rd at some point does not mean that he has hit a wall with his haki by all means its still growing.
I’m not expecting a toddler to show CoC, I would just expect Blackbeard at some point in his pretty prominent screen time to show a hint of it, knock out fodder/someone comment on it/anything because it’s wild that he hasn’t shown it at all if he’s supposed to be a top tier CoC user. Heck not even a slight CoC clash or comment on it on Amazon Lily when he fought Boa.

Ambition doesn’t equate to having CoC, and Kaido was also aiming for higher goals up till his death, even he hit a wall on his haki.
 
He banned me for 2 months for insulting a ZKKfan, then I showed more than 30 insults from the same ZKKfan he didn't ban them. He probably ban ZKKfans 1 week at best.
I cant talk about that but i know in his heart he is a true sanjifan

I also know he loves when i point out the countless parallels and recycled plot points oda used for shanks from sanji

One of the top G sanjifans for sure
 
That’s not begging it’s bragging because he thinks Gaban was referring to him.
He is desperate lmao, almost wanting it to be him.
Zoro and jimbe taking all my glory, my turn now.
Give me CoC, tell them it's me.
' Who me? '
:ihaha:
You're fighting a loosing battle here,
Precious pages I had an argument with people how begging is better than how Zoro got his CoC. Lmao
 
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