[FNZ] Super Role Madness Game Of Thrones: A Song Of Ice and Fire

[Lord Melkor]

N1: Jan, Action failed.

So

Vote Lynch Melkor.

Claimed an amp and didn’t amp the claimed Watcher despite Town reading me. He‘s outed. GN.

I see why you can think so, but i really sent an action to amp you tonight! I do not know why the hell it did not work! Maybe i was also blocked or messed with or you were bussdriven?

If town has used an action to mess with mine or Flower's actions please say so.

 

[Tayenne]

I don't believe you being poisoned is important information at the moment because I don't think it's alignment indicative. That Fuji bothered to give everybody hit points in this set-up tells me that every faction probably has some attacking roles in their ranks. If we get a lead on who poisoned you then we'd have something to chew on, but for now it's just some anonymous attack that could very well be town. I also don't believe you need an in-depth knowledge of the game to piece together that a kill which conceals critical information from the town is a scummy role.

We're early into D2 and the two suspects you've shaded are Polar for his reaction to his wagon and myself for putting a wagon on Polar, that doesn't make me feel better about you.

Why I ended on Polar is that I was feeling uneasy about things being dead in a near tied game near the end of phase, and I wanted to gauge the reactions if I rattled the hive. I think things wrapped up too quick to gleam as much as I wanted, but we did score some intel out of that decision and some potentially notable behavior like Orca's jump from Melkor to Dio in the mix of things.

It also could have been a 3rd party role from my perspective since they also want to conceal information from town obviously, in general I always think it is important to think about why somebody got killed and possible by whom (player and allignment wise)
besides lynch tallys these are the only hard facts we have atm, everything else is speculation

why does it make you feel uneasy that I found polar bears reaction of eod suspicious? elaborate
and no you putting a wagon of Polar is not what makes me suspicious of you
you pretending like all I do is asking questions is what makes me suspicious of you
and you ignoring things I ask you about to understand your thought process is also giving me the feeling like you are hiding something and not freely sharing your thoughts
like even regarding my last response you didn't explain to me why you dind't analye Al Sama and why you didn't lynch right after you spent so much time making a list

atm I am trying to understand if you are just genuinely not paying attention and selective with what you read or if there is more behind it
that includes asking us about the small council when Fuji posted like 3 pages before that the council only starts on Night 2

 

[Lord Melkor]

I am curious why Flower is surprised that someone would block her actions at night if she claims watcher. It seems like the smart play from a scum point of view.

Who did Oblivion sub in for? Without threadmarks, it is hard to keep track.

She was suprised that her action failed while i could Amp her which i think makes sense from town Flower.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Do we have a list of people who did not vote eod? There should be some scum there especially if Polar is town, which would mean all main wagons were town and scum could just do nothing?

 

[Tayenne]

I need everyone to think at a 6 people POE for mafia and 2 indies.

please quote this post and share your thoughts

Players:

1- @Flower
2- Yoho
3- Zemmi Replaced by Sallucion
4- @Jaguark101
5- @York
6- @Polar Bear
7- @bittersweet
8- @Mr. Reloaded
9- @Alwaysmind
10- @Charlie
11- Hayumi Replaced by @GalaxyLevelShanks
12- Dio Replaced by Orwellian
13- @The Orca
14- Ratchet Replaced by @Crowned Witch
15- EkkoLoJinx Replaced by @Worst
16- @gingerbread
17- @AL sama
18- Michelle
19- @Tayenne
20- @Jan
21- @Lord Melkor
22- @Yo Tan Wa
23- Elder Lee Hung Replaced by @Great Potato
24- @SakazOuki
25- @RippedCal

as Jan mentioned since about half of players feel inactive, it is hard atm to work with POE tbh, like hopefully if these players share more this day we can do it

 

[Lord Melkor]

Nothing happened to me btw. In case someone's used sth.

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Do sallu was likely killed by mafia and yoho? Either another vig or Indie that's chosen yoho to pretend to be a vig later on?

Sallucion should be the mafia kill sińce the flip was janitoted.

Yoho could be vig or Indie kill. I quess town could have someone with one shot superkill in addition to Orwellian having two shot regular kills? Especially that regular kills are not guaranteed to finish off the target.

But if it was town vig it should not claim.

 

[Charlie]

Reading through Flower's posts, and I found this. I totally missed the fact that there was a Reloaded lead wagon. :D

Maybe it could tell something about wagonomics.

@Charlie can you pull up a votecount from this moment? Seems like Threadmarks are toast on this forum.

VCs are all in opening post :o

 

[Lord Melkor]

So its a mafia ability?
That means Zemmi was killed by the mafia and yoho by somebody else?

90% the hidden kill was from mafia, they usually have ability to hide dead role from town once per game

 

[Charlie]

Finally found it. Maybe it's not as mechanical as I thought initially, but still lock town.

i don't think she meant "shielded" literally here

it's sth like, cata defended jan in thread

i think

 

[Lord Melkor]

Zemmi didn't vote anyone and I don't remember her pushing hard for anyone tbh but I will backtrack her posts so need to think why she got killed. Maybe because she hinted at her power and also was part of the council?

Yoho voted Reloaded who was the main wagon for a while but that actually makes be believe Reloaded was probably not his killer cause ye would be abit to obvious to kill exactly the person who suspected you lol and it didn't feel like Reloaded cared much about being voted or that Yoho pushed the reload lynch much anyway so don't think he would feel threathned enough to kill Yoho.

I think Zemmi was pretty much cleared because she got emotional and wanted to sub out in the thread.

 

[Jan]

"Lynches and Factional kills ignore players HP and also outright kills them."

Factional kills don't seem to have the omega kill description while doing the same thing.

Scum could have run into a medic save, or exactly yoho got targeted.

 

[Charlie]

I wanted to check Zemmi

i forgor, did you have zemmi as scum last dp?

 

[Charlie]

There was a whole thing.

Bitter has townread me all game in a weird way.

When pushed about it by flower he softed to be my new best friend.
Check his is it should be a quick find (quicker than searching hers)

oh i remember that, i didn't think it's mech, that's all

 

[Lord Melkor]

I'm still not liking Tayenne's posts, just the sort of questions he is asking feel like playing naive which I have a hard time buying for someone who claims to have many previous games under their belt.

Why act like Zemmi's death is a confusing choice that needs looking into when the obvious reason is that she sought out a sub because she possessed a powerful town role that she didn't want town to lose and then was voted part of an elite council that will have sway over the thread? Any non-scum members in that council have targets on their back from this point and should become priorities for any protective roles out there.

Why would a janitor kill that scrubs the identity of a killed player to deny information to the thread ever be anything other than a scum role? I don't mean to be rude if these are sincere questionings, but it keeps looking to me like fluff posting designed to look engaged without actually moving the needle in the thread.

Not entirely bad points, but i could see Tayenne being confused if she never played in role madness setup with janitored kills.

 

[Tayenne]

Do we have a list of people who did not vote eod? There should be some scum there especially if Polar is town, which would mean all main wagons were town and scum could just do nothing?

didn't vote are:

zemmi, Jaguark, York, bittersweet, alwaysmind, charlie, Hayumi/Galaxylevelshanks, Ratchet/Crowned Witch, gingerbread, Yo tan Wa

I agree that it is the easiest cluster where evils can hide and I am sure there are some but honestly I can't imagine everyone being in this group alone

 

[Jan]

I wanted to check Zemmi

Can you be clear here?

Watching Zemmi does not check her, and if that is what you did, then you are left with a smoking gun and are ignoring it.

If you tracked Saka then you would not know that you'd get info on zemmi ahead of time.
Exact wording when claiming track/watch info is important.

 

[Jan]

oh i remember that, i didn't think it's mech, that's all

The last part of it was mechanical, I think.

Not clearing me but aligning him with me.

 

[Jan]

didn't vote are:

zemmi, Jaguark, York, bittersweet, alwaysmind, charlie, Hayumi/Galaxylevelshanks, Ratchet/Crowned Witch, gingerbread, Yo tan Wa

I agree that it is the easiest cluster where evils can hide and I am sure there are some but honestly I can't imagine everyone being in this group alone

Half of those people did not play (not really..
Zemmi is flipped town. Jag is just town.

In that world, the narrative would not be mafia was fine with v/v wagons because they were never playing the game.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I’m suspecting Melkor as scum

His vibe been off since his very first message

How it was off? I do not think we played much together.

 

[Charlie]

@Jan

wdyt of Worst and his claim rn?

claims he tracked zemmi/sallu to yoho

both of them dead so none of them can comment

I have Zemmi as town lean for now but as soon as she says something like " I refuse to get miss lynched as town " we shall vanquish her with everything we've got

he had zemmi as town so why bother tracking him?

was 99% sure melkor is scum (still is) and melkor was supposed to confirm is role by amping flower, so why not tracking him instead?

te LM we're about 99.99% on the right track this is the wagon that's been decided

sounds like contradiction to me, ngl