Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1189 Spoilers Discussion

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

That's why @GalaxyLevelShanks is a liar pretending to be Shanks fan, we both know this is the truth but he will deny it.

lol ight man if u say so

If there was even a little bit of argument left in the story where you could have argued Shanks > Mihawk then I would have pounced on it but there’s simply none remaining

Give up and focus on your EoS PedoTeach wank. He’s guaranteed to be stronger than Shanks and Mihawk, maybe even combined

 

[donidk]

My guess is gonna be that Luffy has a second awakening and be able to give assistance to zoro and sanji as well make him stronger.

 

[soupongo]

Learning about your state of mind is always a W. Respect, keep it up

There's no panel of Goku damaging Uub, and Vegeta, who is always one step behind Goku, is not going to be stronger than Mystic Gohan

Ronaldo clears Messi(this is cope actually)

Gaban is just Rayleigh, post TS version. It's less cool now

 

[Erkan12]

If there was even a little bit of argument left in the story where you could have argued Shanks > Mihawk then I would have pounced on it but there’s simply none remaining

Lmao, even a non-Shanks fan says there is;

If I was a shanks-tard though I could definitely make some arguments as to why being stronger swordsman doesn't guaruntee MIhawk wins a 1v1 against a weaker swordsman, because we have the concept of Specialising in different kinds of haki, so there are factors outside of swordsmanship like CoC specialist techniques that can have Shanks fight on an even playing field with Mihawk, despite being weaker.
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[kekaro]

There's no panel of Goku damaging Uub, and Vegeta, who is always one step behind Goku, is not going to be stronger than Mystic Gohan

Ronaldo clears Messi(this is cope actually)

Gaban is just Rayleigh, post TS version. It's less cool now

How your fat ass moving right now:

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He could done more than that
Running from balls instead of destroying like first time got him stab .
Should just counter them .
Got stab and hit by them which made him go more into the sword.

He couldnt or he would’ve. This is like “Luffy was holding back against Kizaru” 2.0. Luffy got killed because he wasn’t strong enough

 

[Sentinel]

You can argue that we‘ve haven‘t seen Akainu full potential when he was an Admiral, but him being stronger for being promoted makes no sense to me.

Well, you could argue that Akainu was promoted because he managed to win a 1vs1 against another Fleet Admiral candidate - who was even recommended by Sengoku, an old legend. The FA candidate in question managed to have a punching contest with Old freaking Garp and we haven't even seen the skills which turned Punk Hazard to the current state as it is.

 

[Kiri]

He isn't honest. You just admitted if you were Shanks fan, you can even argue for Shanks winning vs Mihawk, I mean you can have Mihawk perhaps but arguing like crazy for Mihawk winning vs Shanks makes no sense for a Shanks fan when the majority of One Piece community has Shanks > Mihawk, let alone only for Shanks fans.
That's why @GalaxyLevelShanks is a liar pretending to be Shanks fan, we both know this is the truth but he will deny it.

But I would say that it would actually be disingenuous if he continued to argue for shanks beating mihawk just because you can technically still argue for Shanks beating Mihawk, despite being convinced otherwise.

Then I could say he's only arguing for the sake of it, because he's a shanks-tard. I've seen shanks-tards themselves admit that on paper Mihawk beats shanks, even if they don't like the idea of it because of shanks's portrayal, so it's just one of those things.

I know Galaxy and he's not lying, he's just been convinced because he's spent time in powerscaling platforms where people tend to have Mihawk > Shanks, so he's been exposed to those arguments.

He's gone through phases of denial and then acceptance, and now he actually feels the need to double down on MIhawk > Shanks, because having that position is less of a headache and allows him to focus on other aspects of these characters in terms of narrative, than constantly powerscaling.

 

[gz89]

This is the life of an average Zorobro over the last few years.

"I'm back, i'm back"

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Fleet Admiral is just an Admiral who sits behind his desk and does nothing but commanding and pushing bureaucracy.

There is no way Akainu is stronger just because he is a fleet admiral, as a matter of fact him sitting behind the desk and doing nothing is a obstacle.

You can argue that we‘ve haven‘t seen Akainu full potential when he was an Admiral, but him being stronger for being promoted makes no sense to me.

He could’ve awakened his fruit in his fight against Kuzan

 

[soupongo]

How your fat ass moving right now:

Is this me, or Goku's record against Uub in the martial arts tournament where he postponed

 

[Fn Lucci]

He officially disbanded the crew prior to oden returning to Wano. As such oden was a part of the final voyage of the Roger Pirates.

He joined them for the final voyage, but "one year" doesn't mean he'd have stayed longer in either case. He was a commander in the Whitebeard pirates and a samurai of Wano. Neither imply a hierarchy of strength alongside Ray and Gaban

 

[Kiri]

Lmao, even a non-Shanks fan says there is;

You can argue for any position, but if you are truly credible:

Then you should be open to the possibilty you can be wrong, and actually play devils advocate and criticise your own position to test it's strength.

That's how you know someone is not insecure about their position when they can open it to scrutiny. So as someone who has Mihawk > Shanks I still look at the arguments for the other side.

 

[kekaro]

This is the life of an average Zorobro over the last few years.

"I'm back, i'm back"

Dont worry second Protag will be back for real after elbaf, it just the Gaban arc

Zorobros just to dodge mihawk sweating against crackergoku till the mihawk fight next arc

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Lmao, even a non-Shanks fan says there is;

He’s a Mihawk fan lol he’s just saying that there’s still some cope in the tank a Shanks fan can muster up. He’s trying to steelman the Shanks fan argument so he can break every level of it

But I would say that it would actually be disingenuous if he continued to argue for shanks beating mihawk just because you can technically still argue for Shanks beating Mihawk, despite being convinced otherwise.

Then I could say he's only arguing for the sake of it, because he's a shanks-tard. I've seen shanks-tards themselves admit that on paper Mihawk beats shanks, even if they don't like the idea of it because of shanks's portrayal, so it's just one of those things.

I know Galaxy and he's not lying, he's just been convinced because he's spent time in powerscaling platforms where people tend to have Mihawk > Shanks, so he's been exposed to those arguments.

He's gone through phases of denial and then acceptance, and now he actually feels the need to double down on MIhawk > Shanks, because having that position is less of a headache and allows him to focus on other aspects of these characters in terms of narrative, than constantly powerscaling.

There we go, he beat me to it and said it in a great way

 

[Sentinel]

How your fat ass moving right now:

EoS Goku only stops at Buutenks or Buuhan.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He joined them for the final voyage, but "one year" doesn't mean he'd have stayed longer in either case. He was a commander in the Whitebeard pirates and a samurai of Wano. Neither imply a hierarchy of strength alongside Ray and Gaban

He was literally stated to be a Roger pirate by his own narration lmao

Him being a Roger Pirate and member of the “legendary crew” that made it to raftel implies his strength compared to Gaban and Rayleigh. Ignoring this is just sad cope

 

[WaidoWSC]

Well, you could argue that Akainu was promoted because he managed to win a 1vs1 against another Fleet Admiral candidate - who was even recommended by Sengoku, an old legend. The FA candidate in question managed to have a punching contest with Old freaking Garp and we haven't even seen the skills which turned Punk Hazard to the current state as it is.

Yes and if you conclude it logically the Akainu that fought for 10 days was his peak, therefore why he became a FA and literally what I meant with what we haven‘t seen in his full potential, but to be frank fighting for 10 days could also just be statement that their AP isn‘t high to begin with.

You could argue that one way or the other way, but my point is that is peak Akainu and probably the reportoire of his skillset being unseen.

So MF Akainu is Admiral level, the 10 days fighting vs Aokiji = Akainu‘s level as FA.

That is the Akainu we haven‘t seen. The only logical boost Akainu could, receive (doubting it) would be if he submits himself to Imu.

So my point is Akainu has so to speak ” 2 levels“ and a possible 3rd.

1st Level: MF Admiral Akainu
2nd Level: FA Akainu that fought for 10 days. Maybe a little bit amplified for a possible Haki bloom. So this is the Akainu we‘ll see next when he fights seriously.
3rd level: A possible Akainu that submits to Imu

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

EoS Goku only stops at Buutenks or Buuhan.

I haven’t touched DB in a long time but last time I checked wasn’t Gohan the strongest? He had unlocked some new form which wiped Gokus

 

[Boiroy]

@GalaxyLevelShanks FEED HIM