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Who’s stronger ?


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Genuinely insane how Kizaru being so strong combined with admirals hate had the fanbase believe the other Roger wing was a WCI Luffy victim for a decade
Yonko fans after 15 chapters of talking about how Luffy would outperform everyone and prove that Yonko still reign supreme only to read the new chapters where he’s performing worse than an old, half-dead Gaban:

 
Yonko fans after 15 chapters of talking about how Luffy would outperform everyone and prove that Yonko still reign supreme only to read the new chapters where he’s performing worse than an old, half-dead Gaban:

Yonko still reign supreme, Gaban couldn't learn Divine Departure like Shanks, Luffy will also outperform Gaban later on in the arc and Rayleigh admitted inferiority to Blackbeard.
 
I'm sure Imu is experienced enough to adapt against any opponent (particularly ones who have the same powers as one he's fought in the past) but I was thinking it's kinda like how people say you never forget how to ride a bike. Imu isn't going as fast as his max speed but he's getting close and closer. Uhh in this scenario Imu's time limit is like... A kidney about to explode or something lol
That's quite the analogy, very fitting imo. Well said :BigW:
 
Yonko still reign supreme, Gaban couldn't learn Divine Departure like Shanks, Luffy will also outperform Gaban later on in the arc and Rayleigh admitted inferiority to Blackbeard.
I'm still not sure if that was a translation error or not. What's so complicated about learning divine departure besides it being ACOC?

I'm pretty sure it's, "not just anyone from the Roger pirates could use it", as opposed to "Not anyone from the Roger pirates could use it".
 
Let's be honest, Imu is clearly not The Enel to Dragon's Wyper,
Giants are playing that Role for Imu instead, with Loki being his Wyper/Kyros/Dalton ... etc

As I said before, WG vs Anti-WG Factions (Both Pirates & Rebels) is simply the New Skypieans vs Shandians,
World-Scale Civil War that started in Void Century for Unknown Reasons as teased by Vegapunk & both sides could be right/wrong,
We still didn't get Introduced to Birkans of OP World, We still didn't get Introduced to their Enel.

As Doflamingo said, "Celestial Dragons will be dragged from their lofty perch",
People seem to forget that Doflamingo probably knows about Imu yet He gave a speech about "Who rules the seas?",
It's like He is indirectly telling us that actual biggest threat is whoever Dethrones WG, that's who Final Villain is, that's who OP World Enel is.
 
If he wasnt sanjis parallel yall would've called him the strongest he has had better feats than anyone bar WB grow up and accept it
That may be correct and you are right but oda see he handle character

In GV , Garp look too good on Roger and WB, what I say more.

It goes like Garp >=< WB > Roger >= Rayleigh >= Gaban > rest of old generation character like Oden, Shiki, Big mom . Due portray thing. I didn't put sengokh yet but he is supposed to be garp, wb and Roger level.

Old garp has better feats on DC, coc nuke punches, endurance, which he brush off shiryu slab and speed.

WB has greatest endurance feats, great DC and AP, good haki skills.

Rayleigh doesn't show more feats but he will show why he is comaore to Gaban in future or strogner.

Gaban has great AP, speed, best coc user feat, island level DC like old legends does it excpet Rayleigh in feat. His weakpoint is endurance in comapre to peers but still better than luffy since he can stand up while ludfy lie on ground.
 
Yonko still reign supreme, Gaban couldn't learn Divine Departure like Shanks, Luffy will also outperform Gaban later on in the arc and Rayleigh admitted inferiority to Blackbeard.
Kaido and BM fans*.

My bad.

BB and Shanks fans don’t really need Yonkek fandom.

Luffy will obviously perform better than an old, injured Gaban once he gets his new PU.

But the fact that the man who beat Kaido got lol-diffed by Imu isn’t going anywhere.
 
Let's be honest, Imu is clearly not The Enel to Dragon's Wyper,
Giants are playing that Role for Imu instead, with Loki being his Wyper/Kyros/Dalton ... etc

As I said before, WG vs Anti-WG Factions (Both Pirates & Rebels) is simply the New Skypieans vs Shandians,
World-Scale Civil War that started in Void Century for Unknown Reasons as teased by Vegapunk & both sides could be right/wrong,
We still didn't get Introduced to Birkans of OP World, We still didn't get Introduced to their Enel.
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Both sides are definitely not right/wrong. Imu isn't even remotely morally ambigious, his plan this arc is centered around kidnapping children to make giants accept slavery.

Let's not even get into God Valley.
 
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