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Gaban and Shanks literally buchered Harald, the regen was what saved him and this is why they put their hope in loki, if a mystical hybrid and a legendary hammer cant stop the regen after Harald gave him a free shot, how would they stop the regen vs serious Harald,
Loki was neg diffed by shanks and outperformed by 80yrGaban, blud aint shit.
 
Oda's inconsistency when it comes to powerscaling I think is down to his sheer laziness. Bro doesn't care anymore. If it fits the need of the story he will do it. Hajruddin doing anything to Imu should be absolutely impossible for his strength level. Expect Usopp now to do something against Imu.
 
Posting this because that's not what happened.

Gaban literally admitted inferiority to Loki and said HK was going to destroy the world.

Not much more than this.
He didn't though
He just said they couldn't get past his regen gimmick

Gaban does not know about metal hearts

Gaban did not say that it thanks to Loki's strength
Gaban quite literally questioned if the DF had the power to turn regen off, only for that old guy with a sword through his head to say that he does not think it was part of DF's power
Which leads to Metal Heart gimmick like with Sommers
 
He didn't though
He just said they couldn't get past his regen gimmick

Gaban does not know about metal hearts

Gaban did not say that it thanks to Loki's strength
Gaban quite literally questioned if the DF had the power to turn regen off, only for that old guy with a sword through his head to say that he does not think it was part of DF's power
Which leads to Metal Heart gimmick like with Sommers
Gaban fought the HK for years. If there Is one knowledgable about them, It's him. Not to mention Shanks, who was about to become one.

Gaban being far weaker that Loki Is also clear looking at the fight between him and Harald and Loki and Harald.
 
Gaban fought the HK for years. If there Is one knowledgable about them, It's him
Why did he not mention Metal hearts then?
Why sommers freaked out when Zoro said if destroying hearts would kill HKs and their regen?
Not to mention Shanks, who was about to become one
And in the end he didn't, so he does now know about HK bodies
Gaban being far weaker that Loki Is also clear looking at the fight between him and Harald and Loki and Harald.
Yeah, I saw a fight where Shanks and Gaban were destroying Harald left and right and Harald only surviving thanks to regen
while Loki got help from Harald surrendering and pointing to his heart

 
After this Hajrudin fiasco, I’m convinced that Imu is at his strongest when he first arrived. He‘s progressively getting weaker, Oda even hinted at it last chapter. He’ll dish out some more powerful attacks later, but his first round against Loki is when he was at his strongest combat-wise. If he went all-out upon arrival, Elbaf would have been cooked.

@Elder Lee Hung
 
I think there’s a serious argument to be made that the grand fleet alone is strong enough to take on most of the BMP or Beast Pirates.

If Hajrudin is this strong, we can only assume the others grew at a similar rate. Hajrudin specifically was never even portrayed to be the strongest of the commanders, though I wouldn’t be surprised if he became the strongest due to his connection to Harald/Loki.

Cavendish, Bart, and Sai are all likely YC tiers at this point. Cavendish himself is likely a YC1 imo.
The Cavendish upscale this chapter is immaculate
 
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