Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1193 Spoilers Discussion

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Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
congratulations to Zoro for almost unlocking Advanced CoC. Now add future sight, advanced coa and he might be comparable to Luffy, the gap is closing 🔥
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The same would happen to Loki if Harald kept on fighting and regenerating.
Loki can actually full over overpower him, thats better then cutting off his leg or w.e. He would keep him from killing the guards for a good while.

Point is Loki> HK Harald in physical might.
 
That’s a funny way of saying what really happened, which is that Loki literally beat Imu’s control out of Harald, something Gaban and Saint Shanks failed to do.

“Gaban has greater AP than Loki”-> yet he could not beat Imu’s control out of Harald like Loki did, lol

Gaban wanted to save Harald-> then why didn’t he beat Imu’s control out of Harald? Why did it fall to Loki to do that while Saint Shanks and Gaban got collateral diffed?

All this glaze about Gaban’s AP but he clearly failed to do something Loki did, and Loki fought Harald 1v1 while Gaban and Saint Shanks fought Harald in a 1v100.



This is legit like saying Asura Zolo has greater AP than Luffy because Asura Zolo scarred Kaido and Luffy couldn’t do the same, you are mistaking lethality for AP which is the exact error sword swallowers have used to argue Zolo > Luffy, lol….

Obviously Woki has AP far exceeding Gabum and Saint Shanks, Woki beat the Imu out of Harald which Gabum and Saint Shanks failed to do despite wanting to save him.

This is base Gaban level AP:

This is base Loki level AP:


Base Loki’s AP looks like Roger and Primebeard took steroids and had a full power AdCoC clash, base Gaban’s AP looks like some East Blue shit lol.

If Gaban’s AP was all that, he and Saint Shanks would have beaten Imu’s control out of Harald and Harald would have asked them to kill him. But they were too weak and the task instead fell to Loki.
The thing is that we know Roger Pirates kicked HKs ass several times without killing them (Sommers being alive), so the excuse that Shanks/Gaban failed to stop Harald because they didn't want to kill him is wonky. Loki factually didn't want to kill Harald (Harald had to tell him it was the only way to permanently cut the Imu connection) and still ragdolled him the point of snapping him out of his Imu influenced god complex. They cut Harald leg with aCOC ffs, so much for preserving his physical integrity.
If they could have ended Harald killing spree, they would have.
 
What's this cope??
Why can't he bring himself back when he fought Gaban and Shanks.... because they're not strong enough to trigger it?? Harald would have killed them too which he doesn't have a chance vs Loki

Harald went from "I'm gonna kill you and take the DF myself"
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"Wait wait let's stop, let's have some conversations" after Loki beat him up so bad for several minutes nonstop 🤣🤣
Dealing enough Damage is the way to get out from mind control
clearly harald could've broken out of the control at any time but chose to let himself go wild and kill almost every single guard as well as heavily wound shanks and gaban because he thought it was funny
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
The thing is that we know Roger Pirates kicked HKs ass several times without killing them (Sommers being alive), so the excuse that Shanks/Gaban failed to stop Harald because they didn't want to kill him is wonky. Loki factually didn't want to kill Harald (Harald had to tell him it was the only way to permanently cut the Imu connection) and still ragdolled him the point of snapping him out of his Imu influenced god complex. They cut Harald leg with aCOC ffs, so much for preserving his physical integrity.
If they could have ended Harald killing spree, they would have.
I wonder if they ever actually killed any Holy Knights before. Lol

@HeroesNZ
 
yes but what has that to do with Zoor not even able to use basic coc? you basically avoided what im saiyng here, how can you expect a character to use Haki they dont even know how to use? its like you expect Luffy to lern Future sight before basic coo this makes no sense. Zoro has 0 basic training in coc while Luffy spamming that shit since post timeskip
Luffy had prolonged fight with adcoc user in kaido allowing him time to figure it out while ray already trained him on basic CoC so he had solid ground to stand on. While Zoro was left to figure it out himself didn't fight adcoc user 1 on 1 for a prolonged period and mihawk propably only trained him in CoA and CoO. The only hint he was given about it's usage was from gaban it's incredibly impressive to be able to use such an ability when you need it.
 
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