Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room
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@HA001 pointed out Ace had COC while not knowing if he even should have been born, but Kata having it while having self esteem issues about his face also point to the fact that the "self actualization" thing doesn't really make sense either. You'd also have to wonder about Imu and the Gorosei who larp as Gods, but clearly know they're mortal. I know that for years people just took for granted that COC users were characters who were "fearless" which had it's own issues, but the current explanation might even be worse now
Nah.
It's not really something "trivial" considering Kaido's words who didn't think that even post-Udon Luffy could manage to coat himself with CoC but Oda doing everything in his power to discredit it by handing it to Sanji like that.
I mean with Zoro you can at least somehow rationalize it with Enma gimmick but Sanji deadass unlocking CoC and using AdCoC at the same time seems retarded.
It's not really something "trivial" considering Kaido's words who didn't think that even post-Udon Luffy could manage to coat himself with CoC but Oda doing everything in his power to discredit it by handing it to Sanji like that.
I mean with Zoro you can at least somehow rationalize it with Enma gimmick but Sanji deadass unlocking CoC and using AdCoC at the same time seems retarded.
The only justification I can see for this is the fact that Katakuri never personally never fought an ACoC user and may not even know it’s possible
Luffy saw Kaido coat his attacks with CoC but he said he didn’t realize it until he got hit by his Ragnarok attack
What that tells me is that actually identifying it/knowing you can do it is a pretty big deal
That’s why Yamato having it makes sense imo. We know for a fact that Yamato challenged Kaido multiple times over the years and that’s how she got so strong
It’s only natural that she would EVENTUALLY figure out that Kaido’s coating his attacks with conqueror’s as well
Katakuri on the other hands is subservient to Big Mom so I doubt they ever fought and if they did (most likely for training) I’d be surprised if it ever got to a point that Big Mom would whip out ACoC against him
I apply the same logic to Doflamingo as well. Who’s never fought someone with ACoC and wouldn’t have an ally that’s willing to tell him it even exists
And that’s on top of the fact that based on Zoro’s experience it clearly isn’t an easy thing to do. He spent the entire “fight” with Sommers trying to figure it out (as a haki prodigy)
And that’s in conjunction with the confirmation we got that infusing yourself with conqueror’s haki doesn’t follow the same process as armament haki. It was completely foreign to Zoro, despite being a master of flowing his haki
Luffy saw Kaido coat his attacks with CoC but he said he didn’t realize it until he got hit by his Ragnarok attack
What that tells me is that actually identifying it/knowing you can do it is a pretty big deal
That’s why Yamato having it makes sense imo. We know for a fact that Yamato challenged Kaido multiple times over the years and that’s how she got so strong
It’s only natural that she would EVENTUALLY figure out that Kaido’s coating his attacks with conqueror’s as well
Katakuri on the other hands is subservient to Big Mom so I doubt they ever fought and if they did (most likely for training) I’d be surprised if it ever got to a point that Big Mom would whip out ACoC against him
I apply the same logic to Doflamingo as well. Who’s never fought someone with ACoC and wouldn’t have an ally that’s willing to tell him it even exists
And that’s on top of the fact that based on Zoro’s experience it clearly isn’t an easy thing to do. He spent the entire “fight” with Sommers trying to figure it out (as a haki prodigy)
And that’s in conjunction with the confirmation we got that infusing yourself with conqueror’s haki doesn’t follow the same process as armament haki. It was completely foreign to Zoro, despite being a master of flowing his haki
The gang was kinda underwhelmed when they saw the inside of the box.
It's probably a trivial item that only has weight with the proper context, which Imu shoukd be aware of.
Imo it's just a memento from Lily that will make Imu let his guard down. But the memento itself will still prove a hint towards their post-Elbaf aim via Robin knowledge.
It's probably a trivial item that only has weight with the proper context, which Imu shoukd be aware of.
Imo it's just a memento from Lily that will make Imu let his guard down. But the memento itself will still prove a hint towards their post-Elbaf aim via Robin knowledge.
It’s not about seeing it though, we know that
Luffy saw Kaido do it multiple times but was unable to identify it. The same thing applies to the rest of the people on the Rooftop
None of them could actually figure out what Kaido was doing. It took Luffy getting hit by Kaido’s attacks to realize that he was coating his club with conqueror’s
So without someone telling you, it might require you to actually experience it beforehand
Luffy got hit by Ragnarok (and a bunch of other ACoC attacks), Zoro got hit by Thunder Bagua, and Sanji got hit with that explosion lightning kick from Imu
Katakuri and Doflamingo don’t have this under their belt
Luffy saw Kaido do it multiple times but was unable to identify it. The same thing applies to the rest of the people on the Rooftop
None of them could actually figure out what Kaido was doing. It took Luffy getting hit by Kaido’s attacks to realize that he was coating his club with conqueror’s
So without someone telling you, it might require you to actually experience it beforehand
Luffy got hit by Ragnarok (and a bunch of other ACoC attacks), Zoro got hit by Thunder Bagua, and Sanji got hit with that explosion lightning kick from Imu
Katakuri and Doflamingo don’t have this under their belt
