Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

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IMO, it's already been introduced and it's been set opposite the Ultimate Weapon.
It's Loki.

Blood of strongest humanoid race + DF of strongest zoan dragon
I agree, Loki is definitely top candidate, and I even pointed out back then how his Introduction reminded me of Gaimon, seeing how He befriended those beasts & act as their Protector, and Title of "God of War" is befitting someone who represents Ultimate Beast King, opposite to Ultimate Weapon, both claiming divinity.

However, He is not currently living such Potential, because Imu isn't just Strongest Weapon, He is sum of all weapons, He is basically Don Krieg or Caesar or Queen or Usopp or Franky on steroids with Omen being what keeps all his Arsenal attached to him,

His Parallel should be someone who can transform or unleash any kind of Animals/Mythical Creatures that ever existed, that's a Power beyond Loki, that's a Power that justifies why Imu even exists, what those weapons & firearms & mother flame are for,

Remember what Battle Frankies were for? He was trying to take down Sea Kings, and when Luffy started his Journey, his Signature Attack "Pistol" was used to take down a Sea King, and you can notice how Sea Kings are no different than Elbaph Animals, They are basically "Huge" + have mixed DNA with other Animals, we've seen Frog Sea Beast, Bird Sea Beast, Cow Sea Beast ... etc

Loki imo should be who leads this person's Army, He parallels whoever Imu can choose to give him his Best Weapon, (Maybe Shamrock), so Loki is the guy with Best Beast, hence the name God of War, but this actual person should be Imu's True Opposite, someone whose Smile Army are Sea Kings (Countered by Poseidon paralleling O-Tama), contrary to Imu's Special Army being Pacifista (Countered by Bonney),

I can only think of One Character tbh,
If his army is "Sea Kings", then He must be called Sea God,
But if He is from Elbaph, then who could it be? We only know Loki & God of War,
Don't forget that despite God of War's DF & Hammer being Country's National Treasure, and everything pointing out to him being Strongest,
It doesn't change the fact that this only applies to Elbaph, not all Giant Kingdoms, and their Fighting Style isn't named after Hammers or Dragons, it's named after a Spear, clearly referring to Odin, meaning it wasn't God of War who defined Giant's Strength, it was this Spear Guy, and you can notice how Loki wanted to rule over Elbaph, but Hajrudin whose signature Attack is Gungnir wants to unite all Giants,

And Odin does also have an Eye-Patch befitting the Introduction teased by Oda long ago,
Not just that, but I've also pointed out many times how One Piece was inspired by Vikings, and mainly Vicki The Viking cartoon (Which also inspired How To Train Your Dragon Movie), and while Vicki was that weak guy who uses his brain/imagination to solve all problems and MC of story probably inspiring Nika's Concept, the chief viking was Halvar, who had Eyepatch + Redbeard (And btw, Hajrudin is inspired from real-life pirate duos called Redbeards alongside Urouge who is treated as All Father by his Crew),

Oda is 100% preparing to Introduce such Character, I just hope it happens in Chapter 1200.
It's possible that Chapter 100 Title doesn't refer to a Legendary Event/Journey starting, but actually a "Legend" person started to act, and I wish Chapter 1200 is Titled "Legend Appears".
 
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That would make sense if his worst fear was judge, or his germa side... it's actually ivankov noticing he gets hit by okamas for some reason.
Also, robin had a worse life, had the same character arc sanji had in WCI, but Oda never retconned her whole character retroactively.
Wanna know why? Cuz oda didn't know how to give him a power up
They didn't have the same character arc though? They had superficial similarities, but their motivations were pretty different.[/QUOTE]
 
People are actually biting their own ass.
Sanji is surprised that Ivankov is the one that shows up. He thought it would have been the Vinsmokes.
It's like when in harry potter, harry thinks the boogeyman is gonna take form of Voldemort, but then he starts thinking about the Dementor and that's what manifests instead.

0 literacy here and is amazing.
You can CLEARLY see how people didnt give a fuck about sanji's story and are now acting outraged because the character isn't following the line they thought it would be....being in the sidelines forever and "getting out of the monster trio".
:lulz:
Which I can understand. He stood up to his family in WCI, literally standing above them as their saviour. As for the evil Sanji angle, he also confronted that fear in Wano, where he came closest to it becoming a reality, yet still managed to remain himself. So, one could argue that those fears have been resolved.

This last one, however, is partly self inflicted, and only Sanji can resolve it within himself. It has nothing to do with external forces or an unforeseen transformation. It's a deep seated complex he has to overcome. Clearly, he hates that aspect of himself, as it fills him with a deep sense of insecurity and shame. So, when the one person who knows about it shows up as his nightmare, it's not really about Ivankov. It's about what Ivankov knows and what they represent. The fear here is that Sanji knows, without a doubt, why he can't be a Conqueror, and he doesn't want to confront that part of himself. Now, he's being forced to.
 
Which I can understand. He stood up to his family in WCI, literally standing above them as their saviour. As for the evil Sanji angle, he also confronted that fear in Wano, where he came closest to it becoming a reality, yet still managed to remain himself. So, one could argue that those fears have been resolved.

This last one, however, is partly self inflicted, and only Sanji can resolve it within himself. It has nothing to do with external forces or an unforeseen transformation. It's a deep seated complex he has to overcome. Clearly, he hates that aspect of himself, as it fills him with a deep sense of insecurity and shame. So, when the one person who knows about it shows up as his nightmare, it's not really about Ivankov. It's about what Ivankov knows and what they represent. The fear here is that Sanji knows, without a doubt, why he can't be a Conqueror, and he doesn't want to confront that part of himself. Now, he's being forced to.
Good luck explaining those things to the roaches
 
The fear he has towards Ivankov stems from the fact that they were the only ones to pinpoint Sanji’s fundamental weakness. He’s insecure about it, and it brings him feelings of profound shame. That’s why he suppresses those memories. He gets hit by the Okamas because he allows himself to get hit; it’s a manifestation of his defectiveness schema. Robin and Sanji are different characters, and different people process things differently. Also, like I said before, WCI resolved one aspect of his mental flaws, not it's entirety.
The fear he has towards Ivankov stems from the fact that they were the only ones to pinpoint Sanji’s fundamental weakness. He’s insecure about it, and it brings him feelings of profound shame. That’s why he suppresses those memories. He gets hit by the Okamas because he allows himself to get hit; it’s a manifestation of his defectiveness schema. Robin and Sanji are different characters, and different people process things differently. Also, like I said before, WCI resolved one aspect of his mental flaws, not it's entirety.
We have to go step by step because this is extreme cope.
First, while it's true that different people process things differently, this is still a story, in which people expect certain emotional moments to hold weight. What was WCI for if sanji is still suicidal? Does Luffy words mean nothing to him?
Second, from spoilers it seems sanji has no self worth, which makes him getting hit by these okamas when he could've not apparently.
What does it entail? Self harm? He fights recklessly? (who doesn't in the sh? Luffy is half dead half the story) he sacrifices himself for others? (who doesn't in the strawhats?)
How is it a weak point? Is it always active even when he fights for his crew? (almost his every fight?)
Again, this is just too much. Trauma ok, giving him a new retroactive character flaw without explaining it or giving examples is just stating something and retconning a character way too late in the story, stripping tensions from his serious developments.
A few sanji fans, less coping about it than you, are already trying to set things straight (he fights too recklessly, he doesn't get hurt on purpose) but I fear it might be the second from the spoilers, which is nothing short of character assasination
 
I agree, Loki is definitely top candidate, and I even pointed out back then how his Introduction reminded me of Gaimon, seeing how He befriended those beasts & act as their Protector, and Title of "God of War" is befitting someone who represents Ultimate Beast King, opposite to Ultimate Weapon, both claiming divinity.

However, He is not currently living such Potential, because Imu isn't just Strongest Weapon, He is sum of all weapons, He is basically Don Krieg or Caesar or Queen or Usopp or Franky on steroids with Omen being what keeps all his Arsenal attached to him,

His Parallel should be someone who can transform or unleash any kind of Animals/Mythical Creatures that ever existed, that's a Power beyond Loki, that's a Power that justifies why Imu even exists, what those weapons & firearms & mother flame are for,
So, where does BB fit in a mega conflict between Weapon (IMU) and Beast (Sea God)?
 
They didn't have the same character arc though? They had superficial similarities, but their motivations were pretty different.
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Their motivations were pretty similar, they thought they were a burden due to their past, and wanted to sacrifice themselves to save their close friends/family
Both failed to fully trust their companions and face it together, not understanding they matter to their crew
(I want to live/ I need you to become pirate king are very similar moments).
But, unlike sanji, robin did not need a power up retcon to explain his shit feats in the story as she will not be a major fighter in the final arc.
Even if again, sanji sacrificing himself or fighting recklessly or whatever people are interpreting this as, is not anything other shs with no trauma haven't done.
The only thing I can think of is Thriller Bark, but Zoro was also willing to die, him surviving is purely on willpower, kuma thought he was gonna die.
 
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