Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

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Imagine you're a Zoro fan, and your entire wellbeing on god's green earth depends on Zoro, and yet Oda has written some shitty pervert cook who for absolutely no reason but to piss off Zoro in manga, and Zoro fans irl, is as strong Zoro despite his entire being dedicated to training and strength

And now we even learn Sanji was always nerfed because hes a dumbass who hates himself
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Strenght wise you know zoro gonna get the better feats anyway so why are you even entrataining it?
Sanji scaling has been leeching off zoro since that robin wing statement (which doesn't necessarily translate to raw strenght in combat) and that non canon snippet about equal abilities, because his biggest W is against a YC2 that got stalled by chopper.
We are talking just how shit this gimmick is, "low self worth" and "self harm" are out of the blue things with no buildup, only to give him a reason why he doesn't behave like a conqueror, which will not change his character anyway as he will continue sacrificing himself etc...
 
He does not. If that were the case then the trauma would be GONE. The only thing that happened in wano is that he no longer has to worry about losing self because he is using germa powers.

However he is still afraid of not being himself.

Mihawk said it point blank. To be a conqueror is to UNDERSTAND ONE'S SELF. IF SANJI HAD GOTTEN OVER IT IN WANO LIKE YOU CLAIM THEN HE WOULD CURRENTLY BE ALL OF HIMSELF. BUT EVEN NOW HE IS NOT!!!!!!

It’s only at the end of the chapter does he get it. Because his actions were being dictated by TRAUMA
Him no longer being scared Germa doesn’t suddenly cure Sanji of his trauma?? That’s not how that works at all??
 
@Sir Yasheen @soheilhazrat @SDfear @Jackteo @Raiden7 @Dark Knight Sanji @Etemenanki @Yo Tan Wa i guess Zoro fandom is in a really trouble right now, and i'm worried about them. Let's see it in the paper...

Sanji was deliberately holding his own during Yonkou Saga.

Sanji came in Timeskip with far better speed than Zoro

Sanji legit has far better durability with his Exo than Zoro and legit eat a Seraphim punch in the face like it was mosquito.

Sanji deflected a Kizaru laser bean, which even Zoro admited he couldn't do it

Sanji got a direct ACoC kick from Imu while Zoro got rumbled by Imu's tail

Now Sanji is conciously developing CoC and doesn't need a magical weapon to trigger his Haoshoku.

Sanji not only has overrall better speed, better durability than Zoro, but now he's having equal AdvCoC to Zoro.

Sanji>Zoro might be on the table in battledome, and i can't wait for this to happen
 
I think Sanji should just awaken FS and basic CoC, while getting ACoC later.

This chapter seems to hint more towards FS than ACoC, as Iva's words and Sanji's resolve seem to be towards him not getting hit. He could and probably will get CoC in the process. But I do tbh see an issue with him going from no-CoC to ACoC. I mean yeah, Zoro did it, but he also had enma.

For the first 1000+ chapters of the story, we were introduced to numerous basic CoC users with no ACoC. Luffy, Chinjao, Doffy, Kata, and Kid. ACoC is a very hard ability to get, even if you already have basic CoC. It would just seem very convenient for Sanji to get it now all of a sudden.

With FS, Killingham wouldn't be able to touch Sanji. Sanji could effortlessly hack him to pieces. He could grab Killingham's head and go throw it into the ocean. CoC just might not be necessary at that point. Alternatively maybe it will be a loki type situation where Sanji unconsciously uses ACoC to shatter Killingham's heart.

In any case, I don't think Sanji masters ACoC this arc. He masters CoO and gets some CoC power on top, but that is something Oda will deal with later.
 
I think Sanji should just awaken FS and basic CoC, while getting ACoC later.

This chapter seems to hint more towards FS than ACoC, as Iva's words and Sanji's resolve seem to be towards him not getting hit. He could and probably will get CoC in the process. But I do tbh see an issue with him going from no-CoC to ACoC. I mean yeah, Zoro did it, but he also had enma.

For the first 1000+ chapters of the story, we were introduced to numerous basic CoC users with no ACoC. Luffy, Chinjao, Doffy, Kata, and Kid. ACoC is a very hard ability to get, even if you already have basic CoC. It would just seem very convenient for Sanji to get it now all of a sudden.

With FS, Killingham wouldn't be able to touch Sanji. Sanji could effortlessly hack him to pieces. He could grab Killingham's head and go throw it into the ocean. CoC just might not be necessary at that point. Alternatively maybe it will be a loki type situation where Sanji unconsciously uses ACoC to shatter Killingham's heart.

In any case, I don't think Sanji masters ACoC this arc. He masters CoO and gets some CoC power on top, but that is something Oda will deal with later.
He sort of has to get ACoC though. Only way to defeat them
 
I think Sanji should just awaken FS and basic CoC, while getting ACoC later.

This chapter seems to hint more towards FS than ACoC, as Iva's words and Sanji's resolve seem to be towards him not getting hit. He could and probably will get CoC in the process. But I do tbh see an issue with him going from no-CoC to ACoC. I mean yeah, Zoro did it, but he also had enma.

For the first 1000+ chapters of the story, we were introduced to numerous basic CoC users with no ACoC. Luffy, Chinjao, Doffy, Kata, and Kid. ACoC is a very hard ability to get, even if you already have basic CoC. It would just seem very convenient for Sanji to get it now all of a sudden.

With FS, Killingham wouldn't be able to touch Sanji. Sanji could effortlessly hack him to pieces. He could grab Killingham's head and go throw it into the ocean. CoC just might not be necessary at that point. Alternatively maybe it will be a loki type situation where Sanji unconsciously uses ACoC to shatter Killingham's heart.

In any case, I don't think Sanji masters ACoC this arc. He masters CoO and gets some CoC power on top, but that is something Oda will deal with later.
Not this chapter would perfectly connect to Sanji getting ACoC as it goes back to Zeffs conversations with him
 
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