Spoiler One Piece Chapter 991 Spoilers Discussion

[stairs-kun]

Yeah you have to beat them... Not "fight them". Jinbe fought Big Mom.

He also negged diff Kaku with Asura. Kaku was out for so long in the cover stories, Jabra had to carry him.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Lmfao
We see his training. It was bog standard stuff. Enma being used as a normal sword slicing through bamboo because he tamed it in no time.
So how has this boosted him up levels ?
His damage output shit on the commanders already and now you say its improved yet before even though it was above commanders anyway you said he was weaker than them so how does this work ?

Obviously his damage output doesn't shit on Commanders, otherwise Oda wouldn't think it pertinent to train him so it becomes stronger before ever putting him in a fight against one. Like Oda was sitting around and was like, "You know what, Zoro is just so much stronger than the commanders, maybe I should make him stronger and THEN have him fight one." How does that even remotely make sense to you? Please explain, cause I'd love to know....

 

[sanjikun]

He also negged diff Kaku with Asura. Kaku was out for so long in the cover stories, Jabra had to carry him.

Like I said, Zoro/Sanji always beat opponents with room to spare. Only Luffy extreme diffs. The point wasn't that Zoro/Sanji are 2200/2180, but they beat almost identical opponents with similar levels of difficulty.

 

[stairs-kun]

Is this like "Big Mom chasing Straw Hats" chapters, or like "training for Onigashima" chapters.

The fight literally has a title card, which means it is an official fight. Are you saying Oda is lying?

 

[sanjikun]

Obviously his damage output doesn't shit on Commanders, otherwise Oda wouldn't think it pertinent to train him so it becomes stronger before ever putting him in a fight against one. Like Oda was sitting around and was like, "You know what, Zoro is just so much stronger than the commanders, maybe I should make him stronger and THEN have him fight one." How does that even remotely make sense to you? Please explain, cause I'd love to know....

Oh man, I blocked the dude who said this, so I can't see it. Is it Shishio?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Oh man, I blocked the dude who said this, so I can't see it. Is it Shishio?

Nope it's @HA001

 

[AL sama]

BEHAVE​

 

[HA001]

Obviously his damage output doesn't shit on Commanders, otherwise Oda wouldn't think it pertinent to train him so it becomes stronger before ever putting him in a fight against one. Like Oda was sitting around and was like, "You know what, Zoro is just so much stronger than the commanders, maybe I should make him stronger and THEN have him fight one." How does that even remotely make sense to you? Please explain, cause I'd love to know....

So far weve seen cracker who wasnt even tree level
Smoothie who used her power to do what zoro can do casually
Kata who made a small crater
Jack has no great strength feats
Neither does queen
Both lacking in haki so far.
Zoros feat with isds in terms of damage output shits on all of them.
And now hes improved that even more.
Thus proving you to be talking shit.

 

[sanjikun]

I actually agree with HA001, but the problem is that King and Queen are better defensively. They have Zooans, which is way better endurance/durability than Zoro.

So in terms of offence, I think Zoro >>> Commanders easily, but his crap durability (which even Franky > Zoro without Haki), is a liability. Still think he can beat them though.

 

[HA001]

I actually agree with HA001, but the problem is that King and Queen are better defensively. They have Zooans, which is way better endurance/durability than Zoro.

So in terms of offence, I think Zoro >>> Commanders easily, but his crap durability (which even Franky > Zoro without Haki), is a liability.

Are they more durable than kaido who with ryou you can break his defence ? The answer is no. So their durability is a non factor.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

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7 smart users there.

After Apoo's hype fighting supernova left and right we'll witness Hawkin uses Emperor Card against yonko and finally Urouge return in Raijin Island.

 

[CbShadow]

Like I said, Zoro/Sanji always beat opponents with room to spare. Only Luffy extreme diffs. The point wasn't that Zoro/Sanji are 2200/2180, but they beat almost identical opponents with similar levels of difficulty.

You are wrong.

Kaku just obtained his DF power and was learning to use it effectively and adapting it to his fighting style during battle. The Kaku at the end of the battle was much stronger than the one at the beginning. So Zoro and Sanji didn't defeat opponents with almost identical power levels.

 

[Isaac Netero]

If Oda just drew some 1v1 for both of them with actual contenders and not fodders this discussions would be way more productive... Like it's literally been years.

 

[Akuma_Law]

Pics are coming in 29 hours

I'm not crying

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

So far weve seen cracker who wasnt even tree level
Smoothie who used her power to do what zoro can do casually
Kata who made a small crater
Jack has no great strength feats
Neither does queen
Both lacking in haki so far.
Zoros feat with isds in terms of damage output shits on all of them.
And now hes improved that even more.
Thus proving you to be talking shit.

You do understand that one doesn't have to have actual Mountain busting feats in order to be capable of putting out the same amount of energy that would be capable of destroying a mountain right?

For example, Mihawk's swings are powerful enough to cut a mountain of ice clean in half, and Vista can match him blow for blow. Ergo, Vista is capable of putting out at least the same amount of energy as those Sword swings from Mihawk that can cleave a mountain of Ice in half.

 

[HA001]

You do understand that one doesn't have to have actual Mountain busting feats in order to be capable of putting out the same amount of energy that would be capable of destroying a mountain right?

For example, Mihawk's swings are powerful enough to cut a mountain of ice clean in half, and Vista can match him blow for blow. Ergo, Vista is capable of putting out at least the same amount of energy as those Sword swings from Mihawk that can cleave a mountain of Ice in half.

Why are your arguments always so shit ?
Thats utter bullshit. Mihawk can regulate his strength so no vista cant do that iceberg feat at all. And zoros output shits on the commanders.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Why are your arguments always so shit ?
Thats utter bullshit. Mihawk can regulate his strength so no vista cant do that iceberg feat at all. And zoros output shits on the commanders.

 

[HA001]

Unfortunately thats the most coherent response you have given so far. Sad really.

 

[Wusi]

Fight predictions of beast pirates members & SH alliance :

+ Kaido VS 9 scabbards (neko & inu back)

+ King VS luffy going up

+ Queen VS law (law need help though)

- Jack VS (jack already lost)

+ who's who VS sanji (sanji fall location may newr who's who if jump from above)

+ sasaki VS jinbe (due to sasaki near him)

+ black maria VS yamato due to female fight

+ ulti VS nami (distract) + carrot + shinobu + robin (SH girls)

+ page one VS usopp (distract) + chopper + franky + brook (SH weaker boys)

- Apoo VS (high chance apoo will lose) zoro & Xdrake (maybe kid will take over due to revenge)

- hawkins (seems will join the luffy supernova alliance)

+ 5 numbers left from 9
(4 already beaten : jaki, nangi, juki, no 5)
Hatcha VS killer
The other 4 maybe fight hyogoro & his 4 yakuza

+ hotei VS wano samurai

+ fukurokuju VS missing in action

Left over :
Big mom
Katakuri
Marco

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Unfortunately thats the most coherent response you have given so far. Sad really.

Lmao, don't be salty because you have no clue how energy output and power scaling works.