One Piece Chapter 959 Spoilers Discussion

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Do you understand the meaning of allow?

Oden has Enma tamed, so he can keep it under control and not when he wants to. During normal slashes, it makes sense if he saves his Haki, but when he needs to utilisez every bit of Haki, Enma will suck it out of him, which would make that slash strongest.

He can also release that much haki to do more damage
do you understand what imply means?
quite a jump to oden slash is the strongest as well.
Too many assumptions here that could be easily answered with a flashback.
as I said before if you are wiling to assume other top tiers failed to scar kaido
then you should also assume the scabbards, kyoshiro and the best swordsmen in wano cannot tame enma. be consistent
Note: this isnt directly to just you .

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

He can also release that much haki to do more damage
do you understand what imply means?

If sword was not a factor, he could have done it with other sword. But Enma has that hype not other sword.
Hiyori hyped the sword itself not Oden.

There's also Zoro statement, that he would be stronger with the new sword. His Haki level hasn't raised, and he is stronger with Enma than Shusui.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Zoro says he can't cut Pica from distance like Mihawk could, and needed to be launched near Pica so his slashes can completely cut Pica Golem,

I didn't say Enma is the only sword able to cut Kaidou, Top tiers have vast amount of Haki, they don't need such sword.

But characters like Oden who are a tier below Kaidou, can use Enma to make one of his strongest slashes by using all his haki, to perma scar Kaidou. That's why his other name sword, that is also of great Quality didn't perma scar Kaidou.

it's like you are saying shisui equal to wado and we know just from the slash he can absorb the the slash of sandai and wado then shusui >>>>> wado and the same thing to ame bo habikiri <<<<<<< enma not because of haki but it can cut far better and has a very powerful slash zoro can cut things or reflect it with shusui far better than with wado who has the same grade or sandai

 

[ShadyOjiro]

That's because he isn't Top tier yet. At his Haki level that's all he could have managed on his own.

Mihawk is a Top tiers and has more Haki, his slashes uses enough of Haki that Zoro probably uses in 5 or more of slashes. That's why Mihawk slashes are stronger.

There's no such relationship confirmed you are using your own headcanons.

Where is stated that more Haki more range?
.... nowhere.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

If sword was not a factor, he could have done it with other sword. But Enma has that hype not other sword.
Hiyori hyped the sword itself not Oden.

There's also Zoro statement, that he would be stronger with the new sword. His Haki level hasn't raised, and he is stronger with Enma than Shusui.

getting used to it he would be even stronger
so what did he do? trained with it
enma is yet to cut something however shusui has not cut
hiyori hyped enma cause that was the blade handed to her, ame no habakiri was said to cut the sky akin to wb supreme blade cloud cutter . enma is highlighted more because thats the one zoro recieves. they are both of the same grade. he's stronger when he gets used to enma than shusui
key word there.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Nothing wrong but nothing extraordinary either....that's all Im saying

That's a great mindset I suppose.

 

[Bogard]

People: close the shops
【In the Capital, there’s someone who was the biggest star of that time—】
People: Hide the cattles!!
Quick!! He’s coming!!
Kouzuki Oden has!! Return~~~!!!
Did he failed to sail out to the sea again!!
Just die already—!!
Oden: Ah~~~I feel like I’m getting crushed, it’s too cramped here!!

Interesting. Loving this development, so Oden wasn't really liked 39 years ago. I assume this flashback will focus on what Oden did to end up earning the respect of all the folks dudes

But for god sake Oda, stop with the shadows

 

[Rmstorm]

getting used to it he would be even stronger
so what did he do? trained with it
enma is yet to cut something however shusui has not cut
hiyori hyped enma cause that was the blade handed to her, ame no habakiri was said to cut the sky akin to wb supreme blade cloud cutter . enma is highlighted more because thats the one zoro recieves. they are both of the same grade. he's stronger when he gets used to enma than shusui
key word there.

They can be the same grade but Enma is the best Sword in the world with its special ability.

Ame no Habakiri is not as special as Enma, the only blade to Scar Kaido in all his years of Combat.

No other sword can permanently scar Kaido

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Hitetsu literally tells you enma and ame no habakiri are said to be on the same level as shusui . but zoro would get stronger with enma because it forces him to control how much haki he puts in his blade

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They can be the same grade but Enma is the best Sword in the world with its special ability.

Ame no Habakiri is not as special as Enma, the only blade to Scar Kaido in all his years of Combat.

No other sword can permanently scar Kaido

you are more of a zoro stan than I thought

 

[Rmstorm]

Hitetsu literally tells you enma and ame no habakiri are said to be on the same level as shusui . but zoro would get stronger with enma because it forces him to control how much haki he puts in his blade

It is the only blade that Scarred Kaido.

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

I really don't want a really long Oden flashback right now

 

[hornista4]

That's a great mindset I suppose.

If only i could understand what you mean by that...

 

[ShadyOjiro]

If sword was not a factor, he could have done it with other sword. But Enma has that hype not other sword.
Hiyori hyped the sword itself not Oden.

There's also Zoro statement, that he would be stronger with the new sword. His Haki level hasn't raised, and he is stronger with Enma than Shusui.

Zoro ask himself if he would get stronger once he tames completely Enma.

Enma was hyped cuz well it was the sword used for the feat .
Oda building powerwise is Haki ,all Haki. He doesn't gonna trade the effort of hyping CoA and Wano for a sword....do you even Oda?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

It is the only blade that Scarred Kaido.

zoro and oden are the only ones to tame enma
their haki is > every other swordsmen that popped up in wano
zoro with enma does more damage than shanks and mihawk , roger , ray can with their blade. :yasu:

 

[Red Admiral]

2019 and we still talking about pica

well ...
a King punch can take out a Yonko
a King punch seem hit it's limit by washing away Pica
Zoro low diffed Pica

Zoro >>>>> Yonko

it's logical if beating Pica be that important to them

 

[MonsterZoro]

Why no one translating the zoro sanji panel

 

[Tejas]

well ...
a King punch seem hit it's limit by washing away Pica

No where near its limit.

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

Why no one translating the zoro sanji panel

It is really cropped very poorly so it would be a waste trying

 

[Red Admiral]

No where near its limit.

that's the illogical part of that post to you?

 

[hornista4]

Zoro is pure strength Law is only DF.

That's cuz Zoro one is more impressive.

Inazuma can probably cut a lot of materials too but it's her/his DF but again only DF and well that's not bad they all have their own ways.

Before anything you think in adding Law swordmanship is barely above Diamante.

I think after 20 years having fans trying to justify acomplishments by a, b or c factor is dumb....
Imo in OP it doesnt matter if its by haki, sword or DF, as simple as that....
It doesnt matter how you cut the mountain, or you can or you CANNOT, the fact is can you do it.
Fans overhype and downhype way further and deeper than Oda himself, that's why there are a lot of stupid discussions in forums....