Break Week Zoro did in fact show everything he learnt/mastered from TS

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Jo_Ndule

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Ashura this or that yet Oda doesn't even bother hinting at it again ...so for now it is useless to mention it.
At least Oda showed KKG in training again in Wano since DR and Showed DJ/gear 2/g3...

Zoro was serious and did his best moves to beat Pica.

I said it and will keep saying it,
He showed everything from TS and that's why he got Enma and training to grow stronger.

If you say Zoro didn't go all out or held back...
You are lying coz he is serious whenever he puts the bandana. That means he is performing his best to destroy/beat/cut something or someone.

Now Oda is pairing Enma Zoro with Killer as rivals.

He was never stronger than or equal to Luffy after TS or else Oda won't group him with Sanji or with Killer who are both not even equal to pre fs luffy . Oda would have grouped him with Law or Kidd in this arc.

Timeskip training :
  • Luffy showed G4 and redhawk
  • Zoro showed improved versions of his attacks
  • Sanji showed HM , DJ cross and improved DJ attacks
  • Then Luffy got FS and Adcoa , Zoro got Enma and Sanji got RS.

Without their PUs:
  • G4 Luffy ~ Marco/King/Doffy at best.
  • Zoro ~ Law /Jack/Pero
  • Sanji >~ Oven/Daifuku

If Zoro doesn't show Ashura in this arc then Ashusa doesn't exists anymore or Oda retconned it.
You can't compare Enma Zoro to DR zoro...wano zoro trained and has enma, he is above DR Zoro.
And he doesn't have Penetration haki.
He's relying on Enma not haki!! Just like sanji relying on RS nowadays while Luffy relies on FS and ryuo.
 
T.D.A

T.D.A

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Jo_Ndule said:
Ashura this or that yet Oda doesn't even bother hinting at it again ...so for now it is useless to mention it.
At least Oda showed KKG in training again in Wano since DR and Showed DJ/gear 2/g3...

Zoro was serious and did his best moves to beat Pica.

I said it and will keep saying it,
He showed everything from TS and that's why he got Enma and training to grow stronger.

If you say Zoro didn't go all out or held back...
You are lying coz he is serious whenever he puts the bandana. That means he is performing his best to destroy/beat/cut something or someone.

Now Oda is pairing Enma Zoro with Killer as rivals.

He was never stronger than or equal to Luffy after TS or else Oda won't group him with Sanji or with Killer who are both not even equal to pre fs luffy . Oda would have grouped him with Law or Kidd in this arc.

Timeskip training :
  • Luffy showed G4 and redhawk
  • Zoro showed improved versions of his attacks
  • Sanji showed HM , DJ cross and improved DJ attacks
  • Then Luffy got FS and Adcoa , Zoro got Enma and Sanji got RS.

Without their PUs:
  • G4 Luffy ~ Marco/King/Doffy at best.
  • Zoro ~ Law /Jack/Pero
  • Sanji >~ Oven/Daifuku

If Zoro doesn't show Ashura in this arc then Ashusa doesn't exists anymore or Oda retconned it.
You can't compare Enma Zoro to DR zoro...wano zoro trained and has enma, he is above DR Zoro.
And he doesn't have Penetration haki.
He's relying on Enma not haki!! Just like sanji relying on RS nowadays while Luffy relies on FS and ryuo.
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In buddhism, Ashura is one of the 6 paths of pain or suffering. The most reasonable and likely explanation is that Ashura form can only be used when Zoro's severely wounded and in pain.
 
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Sword God Ryuma

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Jo_Ndule said:
Ashura this or that yet Oda doesn't even bother hinting at it again ...so for now it is useless to mention it.
At least Oda showed KKG in training again in Wano since DR and Showed DJ/gear 2/g3...

Zoro was serious and did his best moves to beat Pica.

I said it and will keep saying it,
He showed everything from TS and that's why he got Enma and training to grow stronger.

If you say Zoro didn't go all out or held back...
You are lying coz he is serious whenever he puts the bandana. That means he is performing his best to destroy/beat/cut something or someone.

Now Oda is pairing Enma Zoro with Killer as rivals.

He was never stronger than or equal to Luffy after TS or else Oda won't group him with Sanji or with Killer who are both not even equal to pre fs luffy . Oda would have grouped him with Law or Kidd in this arc.

Timeskip training :
  • Luffy showed G4 and redhawk
  • Zoro showed improved versions of his attacks
  • Sanji showed HM , DJ cross and improved DJ attacks
  • Then Luffy got FS and Adcoa , Zoro got Enma and Sanji got RS.

Without their PUs:
  • G4 Luffy ~ Marco/King/Doffy at best.
  • Zoro ~ Law /Jack/Pero
  • Sanji >~ Oven/Daifuku

If Zoro doesn't show Ashura in this arc then Ashusa doesn't exists anymore or Oda retconned it.
You can't compare Enma Zoro to DR zoro...wano zoro trained and has enma, he is above DR Zoro.
And he doesn't have Penetration haki.
He's relying on Enma not haki!! Just like sanji relying on RS nowadays while Luffy relies on FS and ryuo.
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Zofo hasn't used Ashura yet. Your wrong
 
CbShadow

CbShadow

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Jo_Ndule said:
Ashura this or that yet Oda doesn't even bother hinting at it again ...so for now it is useless to mention it.
At least Oda showed KKG in training again in Wano since DR and Showed DJ/gear 2/g3...

Zoro was serious and did his best moves to beat Pica.

I said it and will keep saying it,
He showed everything from TS and that's why he got Enma and training to grow stronger.

If you say Zoro didn't go all out or held back...
You are lying coz he is serious whenever he puts the bandana. That means he is performing his best to destroy/beat/cut something or someone.

Now Oda is pairing Enma Zoro with Killer as rivals.

He was never stronger than or equal to Luffy after TS or else Oda won't group him with Sanji or with Killer who are both not even equal to pre fs luffy . Oda would have grouped him with Law or Kidd in this arc.

Timeskip training :
  • Luffy showed G4 and redhawk
  • Zoro showed improved versions of his attacks
  • Sanji showed HM , DJ cross and improved DJ attacks
  • Then Luffy got FS and Adcoa , Zoro got Enma and Sanji got RS.

Without their PUs:
  • G4 Luffy ~ Marco/King/Doffy at best.
  • Zoro ~ Law /Jack/Pero
  • Sanji >~ Oven/Daifuku

If Zoro doesn't show Ashura in this arc then Ashusa doesn't exists anymore or Oda retconned it.
You can't compare Enma Zoro to DR zoro...wano zoro trained and has enma, he is above DR Zoro.
And he doesn't have Penetration haki.
He's relying on Enma not haki!! Just like sanji relying on RS nowadays while Luffy relies on FS and ryuo.
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Just another post to downplay Zoro's strength to try to make him look weaker.

Zoro putting on his bandana does not equal to Zoro going all out.

Zoro put on his bandana to fight Hyouzou and he considered him trash. Zoro didn't use haki against him either. While Luffy used haki against Hody and almost died against Hody, a fishman Zoro oneshot underwater. Luffy still had his stronger mode, G4, which you didn't use again Hody.

As you can see, being serious doesn't equal to going all out.

We saw during WCI that Luffy still had 2 more G4 modes we did not previously know about and he learned a new power, FS, during that time. Just because a character gain a new power during a arc doesn't mean they have showed us all of their powers.

When Zoro beat Pica the attack he use against Pica's real body was a weaker attack than the one he used against Pica's golem. All of the following attacks against the golem were none name haki attacks which proves he didn't even need to use a name attack against the golem.

Zoro and Killer are place together because they are the only non-captain supernovas facing the Yonkos. It's funny how people continue to ignore the most obvious reason.

Just being a supernovas captain doesn't equal bro being stronger than Zoro.

The second Zoro used a name attack/technique against Killer he beat him. The same thing happened with Kaido faced Luffy. His first name attack dropped Luffy. Zoro did that using a scythe, a weapon that he's never used before, as replacement for a sword. That shows a difference between their skills. Zoro still had 1 and 2 sword style techniques he never used against Killer. The manga has already made it clear that they are not on the same level.

Oda gave Zoro enma to set him up to beat a Yonko not YC. He was already between mid to high YC level post time skip. It's hints Zoro will recreate Ryuma feat by defeating a dragon above the capital.

Enma doesn't give the use of power. The manga tells us how the sword works. It makes it hard for the user to control their haki because it draws out more haki didn't use the wishes if they can't control it.


Since Zoro has not fully mastered enma he's being very cautious with the sword. Because of that he's using too little haki. If he had shusui he would be strong right now because he would have full control over his haki and be able to use it to the fullest.
 
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