Speculations What do you expect of Smoker?

[Sir Yasheen]

They also had the return to sabaody arc before they left paradise.

That was post timeskip and not even an arc. It was just the prelude to fishman island.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Irrelevant trash.

Post automatically merged: Oct 2, 2023

Doing better than princess Koby hopefully. But I doubt it, Oda likes Koby more

Koby is going to be garp in future. Smoker is insect to woby.

 

[Sigran101]

That was post timeskip and not even an arc. It was just the prelude to fishman island.

It's a small arc, but still an arc. And you said last arc per sea. They didn't leave paradise until after the timeskip, so why does it matter that it's post timeskip?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It's a small arc, but still an arc. And you said last arc per sea. They didn't leave paradise until after the timeskip, so why does it matter that it's post timeskip?

Because that wasn’t an arc where luffy had to fight nor was there any plot. It was literally a meeting point before they went to FI. I genuinely don’t see how that even counts as an arc since there’s no plot.

 

[Kiiro]

Smoker is probably stronger than Vergo now ngl, Vergo was only a vet tier, not any stronger than someone like Daifuku or a Tobiroppo.

Vergo is stronger than any Vet fighter. Law literally used a mountain room size to cut Vergo.

Even Queen hyped CoA special users which Vergo is. Heck, Vergo did better against Sanji than Queen.

Smoker stronger? Don't think so, he didnt even push Vergo to use his full haki.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Vergo is stronger than any Vet fighter. Law literally used a mountain room size to cut Vergo.

Even Queen hyped CoA special users which Vergo is. Heck, Vergo did better against Sanji than Queen.

Smoker stronger? Don't think so, he didnt even push Vergo to use his full haki.

I don't think a Tobiroppo would get one shot by PH Law lol

 

[Sigran101]

Because that wasn’t an arc where luffy had to fight nor was there any plot. It was literally a meeting point before they went to FI. I genuinely don’t see how that even counts as an arc since there’s no plot.

Meeting up took a long time, they had to expose the fake strawhats and escape sentomaru and the pacifistas, and we got lore on Kuma. Just because it's short and Luffy didn't get q big fight doesn't mean it's not an arc. So now it's "smoker fought Luffy during the last long arc where Luffy had a big fight in every sea"?

 

[DoflaMihawk]

Lung cancer

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Meeting up took a long time, they had to expose the fake strawhats and escape sentomaru and the pacifistas, and we got lore on Kuma. Just because it's short and Luffy didn't get q big fight doesn't mean it's not an arc. So now it's "smoker fought Luffy during the last long arc where Luffy had a big fight in every sea"?

We didn’t get anything except straw hats reunite.
When people ask what’s the final arc of Paradise, do you think people think about Return to Sabaody? No. Everyone thinks of Marineford.

But fine, Smoker and Luffy fight near the end of every sea because Smoker hunts luffy in every sea.
Loguetown -> Marineford -> Lodestar to come

 

[Mr.Baj1o]

Im expecting a good Return. We definetly will see awakened Smoker with stronger Haki and Devil Fruit moves. The next Time he appears i expect him to be stronger than the likes of Queen/Jinbe... somewhere around current Sanji lvl

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Im expecting a good Return. We definetly will see awakened Smoker with stronger Haki and Devil Fruit moves. The next Time he appears i expect him to be stronger than the likes of Queen/Jinbe... somewhere around current Sanji lvl

Oda likes rivalries. I hope Odas bringing Smoker back closer to Old Rayleigh level so Luffy fights Kizaru and Smoker fights Rayleigh around the same time

:cheers:

 

[SkySanji]

I expect him to at least be stronger than Doflamingo when he next appears, but he'll still be a fodder.

 

[Sigran101]

We didn’t get anything except straw hats reunite.
When people ask what’s the final arc of Paradise, do you think people think about Return to Sabaody? No. Everyone thinks of Marineford.

But fine, Smoker and Luffy fight near the end of every sea because Smoker hunts luffy in every sea.
Loguetown -> Marineford -> Lodestar to come

So it's "Smoker fought Luffy in the arcs that everyone thinks of as the last arc of each sea even if it technically isn't"? If so then sure I guess.

 

[Mr.Baj1o]

Oda likes rivalries. I hope Odas bringing Smoker back closer to Old Rayleigh level so Luffy fights Kizaru and Smoker fights Rayleigh around the same time

:cheers:

I actually have current Sanji beating the likes of Katakuri ofc matchups play a big role in OP but i view Sanji pretty strong. If Smoker makes a comeback by beeing as strong as old Rayleigh this would be hype af and im here for it

 

[Gauntlet]

I expect him to come back in the story primarily to praise Fujitora for succeeding where he failed then continue to be irrelevant for the rest of the story like he has been for the past decade. Maybe he'll come back and beat a couple of fodders then get whooped by another Vice Admiral. The possibilities are endless indeed.

 

[Kiiro]

I don't think a Tobiroppo would get one shot by PH Law lol

That is why you shouldn't power scale.

I dont think any Tobiroppo will even be part of the warlords and balance of power of the world just as Law.

Only Who's Who is debatable, but even Smile Users were surprised that he could push a Warlord (Jimbei) to mid-high diff lol. Even Cp0 knew he wouldn't have a chance against a Warlord.

And Jimbei might be the weakest outside Moriah.

Law will oblirate any Veteran with ease. Punk Hazard version or Wano version.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That is why you shouldn't power scale.

I dont think any Tobiroppo will even be part of the warlords and balance of power of the world just as Law.

Only Who's Who is debatable, but even Smile Users were surprised that he could push a Warlord (Jimbei) to mid-high diff lol. Even Cp0 knew he wouldn't have a chance against a Warlord.

And .Jimbei might be the weakest outside Moriah.

Law will oblirate any Veteran with ease. Punk Hazard version or Wano version.

Well in any case, the Tobiroppo are definitely above Vergo, which was my original point.

 

[Chiji_]

To bring Kuzan to justice

 

[Sigran101]

@Sir Yasheen sorry I must not have noticed the second paragraph of your post. Yeah, near the end of every sea is reasonable.

 

[Robin swan]

By eos he'd be overall with the Marines and still lose his fight to someone on luffy's side. By epilogue he maybe be one of the good admirals for the Marines or just keep his garp portrayal and keep chasing the sh's.