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Erkan12

Erkan12

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#61
#61
Heart pirate said:
Flame off King doesn’t have better defense then Kaido.
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Even flame on Alber doesn't have better defense than serious Kaido who is defending with AdCoC.

We literally see Vegapunk saying laser from Franky might be too much for flame on Seraphim. And Greenbull simply used a basic attack and beat weakened Alber easily, we see Ace in Marineford was weakened too but put up a much better performance vs Aokiji and even vs Akainu when Akainu had special DF advantage vs Ace's DF.

Marco's attack was working on flame on Alber even when he was also busy with fighting Queen in 1 v 2. If Marco's attacks were ineffective like Rooftop Zolo's, then Marco would get counter attacked quickly by Alber in 1 v 1 and would pushed to his limit easily without even needing Queen's help in 1 v 2, Marco holding off both Alber + Queen means Marco's attacks was working even vs flame on Alber.
 
Cruxroux

Cruxroux

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#63
#63
Rootbeer said:
3 reasons why Zoro is the weakest AdCoC in the series by far even weaker than top AdCoA users..

- Black Green Lightning demonstrate that his AdCoC is not perfected else it would be coated fully in Green..

- Not only is it imperfect, but it's very far from being perfect because Zoro didn't use no touch AdCoC meaning his AdCoC is super weak..

- Enma's power is literally boosting Zoro's weak AdCoC and weak CoC..
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This is so easy to debunk.
- Black green lightening demonstrate that his adcoc is not perfected. Luffy post 1036 is using red and black lightening and even with Gear 5 , and that is considered perfect.
Black lightening is AdCoA accept it or not. King of hell is Burst of (AdCoA + AdCoC)
- Swordsman don't need No touch , Zoro isn't the type to use no touch either. When Zoro can simply Rip open characters with just ryou.
- It's the other way around lol , It's Zoro who made Enma further strong than it was in oden's Hand.
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Heart pirate said:
That doesn’t exactly say much about which character ACoC stronger. Zoro making using of lethality with his ACoC attacks, which are more effective at damaging Kaido then Yamato blunt force attacks. Doesn’t really say who Haki specifically stronger than the other tho. Only that lethality >blunt force
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"DODGE KAIDOU"
YOUR BIGMAM SAID THAT 🤣.
Can Yamato block Hakai?
Zoro Haki is Simply Stronger than Yamato and Luffy.
Lethality is useless if Your haki is shit already Proved on rooftop when Zoro couldn't cut Kaidou with Onigiri.


Heart pirate said:
Flame off King doesn’t have better defense then Kaido
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He does lol.
Kaidou was shouting from simple ryou attacks.
King Took adCoC strike Head on and not even a sound like Kaidou made.

Kaidou is A tank , king isn't much of a tank buts endurance and Durablity lol. Not defense.
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TheAncientCenturion said:
No
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Yes
 
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moreha9685

moreha9685

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#65
#65
Rootbeer said:
I made a bet thread and if Kaido didn't have Black Purple lightning when he reacts to Big Mom's defeat, i would have to accept that Zoro has AdCoC or if he did y'all Zoro fans would need to accept that Zoro doesn't have AdCoC.. So.. I publicly acknowledge that Zoro has AdCoC, it doesn't mean i really change my mind on what i trully believe.. I can only claim that Zoro AdCoC is weak as hell for now!..
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Kudos for being a sportsman about it.
 
Thaidakar

Thaidakar

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#66
#66
No touch:


Island level adv CoC, same size of trails as Meme's and Kaido's clash. 3 minutes after zoro first unlocked adv CoC



Other than Joyboy's stored haki bomb nothing and no one split the sky alone. Not even Shanks wifi diffing Broccoli. It's gotta be a clash or whatever the fuck Jesus joyboy did.

You can't say zoro is unable to split the sky when he never got the chance to do so. Especially not if the bro shows adv CoC level the same size as two yonko clashing after a handful minutes of learning it. Zoro clearly has a ridiculously high affinity for both CoA and CoC.
 
Rootbeer

Rootbeer

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#67
#67
Cruxroux said:
This is so easy to debunk.
- Black green lightening demonstrate that his adcoc is not perfected. Luffy post 1036 is using red and black lightening and even with Gear 5 , and that is considered perfect.
Black lightening is AdCoA accept it or not. King of hell is Burst of (AdCoA + AdCoC)
- Swordsman don't need No touch , Zoro isn't the type to use no touch either. When Zoro can simply Rip open characters with just ryou.
- It's the other way around lol , It's Zoro who made Enma further strong than it was in oden's Hand.
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Oh i get it now.. There are 4 stages to use AdCoC and because Luffy learned AdCoA he can use AdCoC very efficiently and do lowest amount possible of AdCoC in an attack..

1 - CoC Coated Lightning + Big No touch
2 - CoC Coated Lightning + Small No touch(or touch)
3 - No CoC Coated Lightning + Big No touch
4 - No CoC Coated Lightning + Small No touch(or touch)

So Luffy uses very little of AdCoC when he's fighting Kaido from chapter 1036 to the end of the fight.. That's why Zoro's AdCoC is weak, it's number 4 and it would be number 5 alone without Enma.. I'm not even sure Zoro can use AdCoC without Enma..

You can't demand both, KoH is either AdCoA or AdCoC..

You need no touch to split the sky and it shows the characters overall CoC power level, so yes Zoro needs to demonstrate no touch at least once, it's for this same reason that i'm claiming that his AdCoC is trash right now..

Enma's base power output(purple flames) as remained equal, yet it's become easier for Zoro to use Enma's power(green flames + Black Green lightning), it means Enma is boosting Zoro's AdCoC..
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#74
#74
Kurozumi Wiwi said:

Reminder that some sword sisters were arguing Ryo was only able to restraint King and not pierce him even flameless, despite the fact that blood was clearly present even in the B&W version
No wonder they are unable to tell that a black blade is... black
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Okay no way anyone actually believe king was acting like that because he was restrained lmao I figured that Cope was just a troll
 
Kurozumi Wiwi

Kurozumi Wiwi

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#79
#79
I remember some user(s) arguing it wasn't blood but just particles Oda sometimes drew during impact coming from Momo's mouth

For reminder Egghead suggested Momo's fruit was in fact the same as Kaido and the only reason was it was considered a failure by Vegapunk was because of the color

It was obvious Ryokugyu could hurt Dragon Momo fine since Momo was lying on the floor for a while after getting beat up and Ryo was confident he would be able to skewer him before Shanks intervention but a few rabid admiral haters still thought it was uncertain they could hurt Kaido/Big Mom (despite fucking Kiku being able to do it lmao)
 
Owl Ki

Owl Ki

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#80
#80
Sir Yasheen said:
Okay no way anyone actually believe king was acting like that because he was restrained lmao I figured that Cope was just a troll
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Kurozumi Wiwi said:
Pretty sure @HA001 actually managed to gaslight himself into believing Ryokugyu's actually broke itself against King body
:sanmoji:
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Thaidakar deleted his posts but the quotes are still there. He genuinely believed that it wasn't blood.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ks-greenbulls-blade.44207/page-2#post-4439926
 
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