Questions & Mysteries What Grade is Ryokugyu's Black blade?
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Shit still isn't a black blade unless oda or someone in story talks about it lol.
Somehow in the land of samurai nobody noticed a black fuckin blade sure.
Somehow in the land of samurai nobody noticed a black fuckin blade sure.
Oh, and Tashigi too:
Kinemon not reacting:
Tashigi not reacting:
Probably Shusui Isn't really a black bade then, no one commented It on It for far more and they had It in the faces, so.
Yeah, but the last panel was the same in the main manga.
I am waiting for the other clear panel of the sword. Not that there Is any doubt anyway.
Almost as if the same happened for all PH and with Kinemon actually seeing the Blade numerous times, and that was the treasure of Wano lol.
Oh, and Tashigi too:
Kinemon not reacting:
Tashigi not reacting:
Probably Shusui Isn't really a black bade then, no one commented It on It for far more and they had It in the faces, so.
Yeah, but the last panel was the same in the main manga.
I am waiting for the other clear panel of the sword. Not that there Is any doubt anyway.
Oh, and Tashigi too:
Kinemon not reacting:
Tashigi not reacting:
Probably Shusui Isn't really a black bade then, no one commented It on It for far more and they had It in the faces, so.
Yeah, but the last panel was the same in the main manga.
I am waiting for the other clear panel of the sword. Not that there Is any doubt anyway.
Who's a sword freak and wanted to fight Fujitora only because he holds a sword lmao.
Shusui plot was set in and forgotten even in wano with Ryuma grave.
Tashigi is too irrelevant to discuss shit about a black blade and post time skip she isn't even interested lol.
At least on facts we agree: Kinemon did not recognized Shusui, National treasure of Wano, used under his nose for a whole arc.
Thasigi the sword freak saw Shusui at 1cm and didn't commet on It.
However, Scrabbards saw from afar a sword never used, and just for some seconds before Ryo became gigantic, and they should have commented on: that's exclude It Is a black blade, even though we have four different confirmations.
Today I learned Shusui Is not a black blade by these criteria. Nice.
Thasigi the sword freak saw Shusui at 1cm and didn't commet on It.
However, Scrabbards saw from afar a sword never used, and just for some seconds before Ryo became gigantic, and they should have commented on: that's exclude It Is a black blade, even though we have four different confirmations.
Today I learned Shusui Is not a black blade by these criteria. Nice.
He had something much more important going on lmao , which was to look for momonusuke , it's easier to miss details like that when you completely focussed on something else.
Buggy was live streaming marineford under 3 admirals nose lol.
Literally zero confirmation lmao.
When shanks Paralysed him , he was standing straight with Both hands up.
Everyone got a nice look lol.
+ Zoro with CoO and should have already noticed.
Zoro wasn't even interested in fighting Atamaki like Fujitora. Lol.
Tell me fujitora hides his Sword all the time and uses only his fruit.
My criteria is
Being talked about in anime.
Even zombie ryuma has more swordsmanship dialouge then Aramaki lol.
And same goes for shusui.
Zero dialouge or panel of aramaki using Black blade or swordsmanship skill.
Or even talked about. Funny isn't it
Buggy was live streaming marineford under 3 admirals nose lol.
Literally zero confirmation lmao.
When shanks Paralysed him , he was standing straight with Both hands up.
Everyone got a nice look lol.
+ Zoro with CoO and should have already noticed.
Zoro wasn't even interested in fighting Atamaki like Fujitora. Lol.
Tell me fujitora hides his Sword all the time and uses only his fruit.
My criteria is
Being talked about in anime.
Even zombie ryuma has more swordsmanship dialouge then Aramaki lol.
And same goes for shusui.
Zero dialouge or panel of aramaki using Black blade or swordsmanship skill.
Or even talked about. Funny isn't it
Yeah, because the Scrabbards were not fighting an Admiral and Momo was not about to die. No sir.
Zoro didn't even got near Aramaki lol.
At Wano, he got interested in the Nidai Kitetsu only after drew the sword, before he didn't even saw It lol.
And Luffy was near him and It was his fucking best friend and captain.
And when he uses It, we'll know and It will be talked about, as always.
Zoro didn't even got near Aramaki lol.
At Wano, he got interested in the Nidai Kitetsu only after drew the sword, before he didn't even saw It lol.
And Luffy was near him and It was his fucking best friend and captain.
And when he uses It, we'll know and It will be talked about, as always.
Lol, not sure what fight you saw: I was the Scrabbards and Momo vs Aramaki.
Then Aramaki was about to kill Momo, Shanks came and then the fight ended.
Thanks for proving another time that Zoro was instrested only in a sword he saw at one meter distance and draw against him.
But I mean, I even showed Zoro not reacting to his captain and best friend having a sword until he used It, so there was really no room there.
Just like with Gennai Aramaki, Ryokugyu's (Aramaki) inspiration.
But I am confident we
may see the sword againt Young WB, if we see the fight.
Then Aramaki was about to kill Momo, Shanks came and then the fight ended.
Thanks for proving another time that Zoro was instrested only in a sword he saw at one meter distance and draw against him.
But I mean, I even showed Zoro not reacting to his captain and best friend having a sword until he used It, so there was really no room there.
Just like with Gennai Aramaki, Ryokugyu's (Aramaki) inspiration.
But I am confident we
may see the sword againt Young WB, if we see the fight.
Shit still isn't a black blade unless oda or someone in story talks about it lol.
Somehow in the land of samurai nobody noticed a black fuckin blade sure.
Somehow in the land of samurai nobody noticed a black fuckin blade sure.
I wouldn't consider this a confirmation this is more or less still conjecture and speculation a confirmation is a databook or SBS confirming that supposition.
Lmao someone having a life outside of this forum isn't Considered MIA.
Literally proved you wrong in the other thread.
First it was SBS Image , where vines which were black in manga was only wood.
then it was official image , where vines are covered in blood.
i don't consider this third one , but @Fleet Leader Fenaker is right with his Black scabbard logic cuz , you were the to bring in Actor logic to start with.
Literally proved you wrong in the other thread.
First it was SBS Image , where vines which were black in manga was only wood.
then it was official image , where vines are covered in blood.
i don't consider this third one , but @Fleet Leader Fenaker is right with his Black scabbard logic cuz , you were the to bring in Actor logic to start with.
No, I was worried you quit as you said you would have if Ryo's BB was confirmed.
But glad you didn't.
I literally served you with the truth, so much for "proving you wrong"
You lamented that the VCs took out hardening on vines (as they often do: they don't show characters acrively using haki usually, becuse guess what, the black covers their true colours): the sword was still black.
The official manga obviously didn't clean Ryo's, since they just had to color the manga scene, haki usage included: the sword was still black and the vines were covered in...blood, not haki as you tired to pass.
You want to stick with the meme answer of "not confirmed"? Go on, but don't try to spin the thing when the official coloring had disproven even your only argument about the vines not being colored lol.
In fact, as I already reminded you, there is one thing on which every version agree: the black blade.
But glad you didn't.
I literally served you with the truth, so much for "proving you wrong"
You lamented that the VCs took out hardening on vines (as they often do: they don't show characters acrively using haki usually, becuse guess what, the black covers their true colours): the sword was still black.
The official manga obviously didn't clean Ryo's, since they just had to color the manga scene, haki usage included: the sword was still black and the vines were covered in...blood, not haki as you tired to pass.
You want to stick with the meme answer of "not confirmed"? Go on, but don't try to spin the thing when the official coloring had disproven even your only argument about the vines not being colored lol.
In fact, as I already reminded you, there is one thing on which every version agree: the black blade.
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Are we really at this level:
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Until someone speaks out loud and say, idk, that Sanji Is blonde, Sanji being blonde would be speculation?
This Is the fourth confirmation we got.
P.S.
You say Databook, but the Databook confirmed: the blade Is black even in there.
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Until someone speaks out loud and say, idk, that Sanji Is blonde, Sanji being blonde would be speculation?
This Is the fourth confirmation we got.
P.S.
You say Databook, but the Databook confirmed: the blade Is black even in there.
vivre cards show one thing - not denying it appears to be a black blade which could be true, we don't know, or it could be something else if you're going to cite the vivre cards from Shueisha then we can also cite his official character page from Shueisha which doesn't show a Black Blade.
Oda didn't correct it like he did with Kings wings (which is pivotal to the story) so at the moment its all conjecture until we either :
A:) Get a direct statement from Oda (SBS)
B:) Get a direct line from a Datebook that he has a Black Blade.
C:) Get a direct comment from Aramaki himself or a character commenting on his sword.
https://one-piece.com/character/Aramaki/index.html
This meme doesn't work ...
vivre cards show one thing - not denying it appears to be a black blade which could be true, we don't know, or it could be something else if you're going to cite the vivre cards from Shueisha then we can also cite his official character page from Shueisha which doesn't show a Black Blade.
Oda didn't correct it like he did with Kings wings (which is pivotal to the story) so at the moment its all conjecture until we either :
A:) Get a direct statement from Oda (SBS)
B:) Get a direct line from a Datebook that he has a Black Blade.
C:) Get a direct comment from Aramaki himself or a character commenting on his sword.
https://one-piece.com/character/Aramaki/index.html
vivre cards show one thing - not denying it appears to be a black blade which could be true, we don't know, or it could be something else if you're going to cite the vivre cards from Shueisha then we can also cite his official character page from Shueisha which doesn't show a Black Blade.
Oda didn't correct it like he did with Kings wings (which is pivotal to the story) so at the moment its all conjecture until we either :
A:) Get a direct statement from Oda (SBS)
B:) Get a direct line from a Datebook that he has a Black Blade.
C:) Get a direct comment from Aramaki himself or a character commenting on his sword.
https://one-piece.com/character/Aramaki/index.html
Anime Is not a databook, and tbh it's ridicolous to try to put them togheter.
VCs are and official databook, with a different team behind and and a different objective, referred by Oda himself as a canon source.
Anime, for Oda's own words, isn't.
In VCs, the same canon source, Ryo's blade was black. Now, in the official colored manga, It Is black; in the official manga, It was already black twice.
Now, if you want to play the "It Isn't stated" card, you can, I cannot force you to concede even in front of the fourth confirmation, but it's exaclty the same as saying that Sanji isn't blonde until some state It verbally.
So, overall, we are Indeed in this meme:
At most, what can happen Is that we will come to know that Ryo didn't forge It black. That Is possible, as unlikely as I think It might be.
However, the sword Is black, was black in the manga, was still black in volume, was black in VC and Is black now in the colored version. It's exactly the same as any other Kokuto and we It will be talked about, It will be merely a verbal statement about something that we already knew and was already clear as much as seeing the sky we can say that Is blue without the need for someone to verbally state It.
And for me there won't be a real problem waiting, if not for the fact that this Is merely a stalling technique used to postpone years in the future the confirmation of something that only needs functional eyes to be confirmed.
We need more angle of that blade to definitively determine if it's truly a Black Blade or not. Visually it does look like a Black Blade but until Oda outright calls it a Black Blade then there will still people who deny it.
And if it's truly a Black Blade, I want GB, a fucking top tier, to actually make it black, not some rando out of nowhere.
And if it's truly a Black Blade, I want GB, a fucking top tier, to actually make it black, not some rando out of nowhere.