Questions & Mysteries What Grade is Ryokugyu's Black blade?

#81
Simply,l no, there Is no cojecture whatsoever.

Anime Is not a databook, and tbh it's ridicolous to try to put them togheter.

VCs are and official databook, with a different team behind and and a different objective, referred by Oda himself as a canon source.
Anime, for Oda's own words, isn't.
In VCs, the same canon source, Ryo's blade was black. Now, in the official colored manga, It Is black; in the official manga, It was already black twice.

Now, if you want to play the "It Isn't stated" card, you can, I cannot force you to concede even in front of the fourth confirmation, but it's exaclty the same as saying that Sanji isn't blonde until some state It verbally.
So, overall, we are Indeed in this meme:



At most, what can happen Is that we will come to know that Ryo didn't forge It black. That Is possible, as unlikely as I think It might be.
However, the sword Is black, was black in the manga, was still black in volume, was black in VC and Is black now in the colored version. It's exactly the same as any other Kokuto and we It will be talked about, It will be merely a verbal statement about something that we already knew and was already clear as much as seeing the sky we can say that Is blue without the need for someone to verbally state It.

And for me there won't be a real problem waiting, if not for the fact that this Is merely a stalling technique used to postpone years in the future the confirmation of something that only needs functional eyes to be confirmed.
As I stated this wouldn't be an argument if it was clear, and the Man Ray meme doesn't work 🤦‍♂️

Can we debate Kings wings ? The creator came out and corrected the anime.
Can we debate Sanjis hair color ? The creator himself stated Sanjis hair color
Can we debate Shusui color ? Ryuma stated the fame of Shusui and it being a black blade.

So again those are confirmations not biases not conjecture/speculation.

What is your argument exactly besides "trust me bro" the bet is simple when we get a confirmation i.e. character statement, Oda statement, or datebook confirmation its conjecture. (BTW If Oda came out and corrected the anime staff and mentioned that Aramaki's sword should be black I wouldn't argue at all cause that would also be confirmation like Kings Wings)
 
#82
Simply,l no, there Is no cojecture whatsoever.

Anime Is not a databook, and tbh it's ridicolous to try to put them togheter.

VCs are and official databook, with a different team behind and and a different objective, referred by Oda himself as a canon source.
Anime, for Oda's own words, isn't.
In VCs, the same canon source, Ryo's blade was black. Now, in the official colored manga, It Is black; in the official manga, It was already black twice.

Now, if you want to play the "It Isn't stated" card, you can, I cannot force you to concede even in front of the fourth confirmation, but it's exaclty the same as saying that Sanji isn't blonde until some state It verbally.
So, overall, we are Indeed in this meme:



At most, what can happen Is that we will come to know that Ryo didn't forge It black. That Is possible, as unlikely as I think It might be.
However, the sword Is black, was black in the manga, was still black in volume, was black in VC and Is black now in the colored version. It's exactly the same as any other Kokuto and we It will be talked about, It will be merely a verbal statement about something that we already knew and was already clear as much as seeing the sky we can say that Is blue without the need for someone to verbally state It.

And for me there won't be a real problem waiting, if not for the fact that this Is merely a stalling technique used to postpone years in the future the confirmation of something that only needs functional eyes to be confirmed.
It's a simple circle jerking with him.
Even last time he had the same argument.
 
#84
As I stated this wouldn't be an argument if it was clear, and the Man Ray meme doesn't work 🤦‍♂️
It doesn't only because you are unhappy by the results, but this is plenty clear:

1) Ryo full image:



[IMGhttps://i.imgur.com/dkH8je4.png[/IMG]

1.2) OP day:


VC:



Official coloring:




Again, using eyes.
Do you need confirmation the sky is blue and before that is conjecture? This is just agenda.

Can we debate Kings wings ? The creator came out and corrected the anime.
Can we debate Sanjis hair color ? The creator himself stated Sanjis hair color
Can we debate Shusui color ? Ryuma stated the fame of Shusui and it being a black blade.

So again those are confirmations not biases not conjecture/speculation.
You can try with this all you want; it's not going to pass with me lol.

By your logic, I need confirmation that Shanks' sword is not a Black balde: we see it isn't black, but only with our eyes; non one has ever stated that it's not a BB, so.

And no, trying to use again a non canon source vs canon source is not going to bring you anywhere.
Oda already said the manga is not canon; but all there rest is.

What is your argument exactly besides "trust me bro" the bet is simple when we get a confirmation i.e. character statement, Oda statement, or datebook confirmation its conjecture. (BTW If Oda came out and corrected the anime staff and mentioned that Aramaki's sword should be black I wouldn't argue at all cause that would also be confirmation like Kings Wings)
No, my argument is "use your eyes bro".

Anyway, this was just for the debate. I had no hope of pulling out of this to begin with, since it was made precisely to avoid acknowledging the situation. We'll when the verbal confirmation came out, in years because because even the official colored manga is not enough lol.

And if that happens, well, we'll remember this, and that I tried to say that were obvious since the fourth source draw it as a black blade.

It's a simple circle jerking with him.
Even last time he had the same argument.
Imagine crying if one had the proofs and the one trying to say otherwise cry because the other keeps posting the proofs lol.
If the official manga had Ryo's blade white, you wouldn't have posted It. No sir lol. You would have said that It was useless and we had to wait for Oda's words on It being white. For sure I mean, I can almost see it lol.

Anyway, with you too we'll see.

At least, if Ryo really turns out to have a BB, accept it and take the consequences; I'll assure you I'll accept the consequences and and I'll accept the loss if he doesn't have it.
 
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#85
Imagine crying if one had the proofs and the one trying to say otherwise cry because the other keeps posting the proofs lol.
If the official manga had Ryo's blade white, you wouldn't have posted It. No sir lol. You would have said that It was useless and we had to wait for Oda's words on It being white. For sure I mean, I can almost see it lol.

Anyway, with you too we'll see.

At least, if Ryo really turns out to have a BB, accept it and take the consequences; I'll assure you I'll accept the consequences and and I'll accept the loss if he doesn't have it.
There's no consequences to even accept lol.
I already said if that shit turned out to be black blade , I'll leave the shit show. Gear 5 was already one of the breaking point and aramaki with black blade is worsem
 
#86
There's no consequences to even accept lol.
I already said if that shit turned out to be black blade , I'll leave the shit show. Gear 5 was already one of the breaking point and aramaki with black blade is worsem
On that I have nothing to say of course. There are plenty of reason to leave OP anyway.

What I am saying Is: you accepeted a bet, honor It. As I assure I'll do unless I am physically unable to log into this site when that happens.

Then, even though losing someone Is always a bad thing, if your really wish to leave there Is no one that can keep you here.
 
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